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Roland SH-101 vs Behringer MS-101 + exclusive downloads

Hi!

The hype for vintage synths always surprises me until I get my hands on one and try it... The SH-101 is a simple, single oscillator synth, and yet actually playing one is an experience I highly recommend. The interface is very clear, easy to understand and definitely knob per function. Well, slider per function anyway...

So, obviously when Behringer came out with the MS-101, I was interested in checking out if they sound the same.

The short answer is, they're very close. I put the oscillators under the scope and despite the fact that they look different, they sound the same to me.

When it comes to the filter though, the difference becomes a little more interesting, though still very subtle (or not, depending on your point of view). The SH filter drops a lot of bass out almost immediately, and spikes up a warbly resonance. The MS's resonance is slightly less pronounced, more stable, but the filter maintains more bass.

The SH-101 was borrowed from my friend Isak - an SH fan who builds his own synths and fixes/modifies, among other, SH-101s  - and I also brought him along to do a blind test and jam a bit - which I included in this video.

I dialed in settings to the point where I couldn't tell the difference between the two, and then put Isak to the test - he got 20 out of 21 tries right, which is quite amazing.

I've added the test as a high quality download attached to this post, as well as an audio file of the jams both Isak and I had some fun with, making this classic do what it does best.

Which do you prefer? Can you hear the difference? 

All my best,

Ziv (listening to slight variations in resonance on youtube as "Loopop")

Roland SH-101 vs Behringer MS-101 + exclusive downloads

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That's why you pay me the big bucks ;) feel free to consult any time

Parameter sequencing!! Thanks! Didn't realize Blackbox couldn't do that.

For sure Octatrack can do things Blackbox can't, the question is are those things valuable for your workflow and worth the headache. Don't forget, you don't have to use everything in the octatrack ;) right now it beats blackbox on ease of sequencing, parameter sequencing (non existent in blackbox) and live looping (better in OT yet still possible in BB)

Also, I have yet to get past the learning curb. From your experience, what can the octatrack do/be used for that the blackbox can't? I'm trying to decide if I should sell my octatrack or not. I don't have too much extra free time so I'm not too fond of how long it takes to understand the octatrack.

Thank you! I'm thinking about having both

Hi Ben! Regarding a video - hopefully I'm working on something better. My plan is to take the buyers guide topics that I added in last month's book update and create a comparison site with information of as many samplers/drum machines/sequencers as possible and then share it with the world... I think I've found a way to do this quickly, so it may be live soon, but until then, if you have specific questions, feel free to ask. If I had to sum up the differences, Octatrack can do way more (though there are some things Black box can do and it can't), and since you have one, you already "spent" the learning curve effort, which is Octatrack's biggest disadvantage. That said, Blackbox is so much more simple, and does have the polyphonic features that Octatrack doesn't, and it's smaller, more portable and with more outputs. Hopefully this helps - feel free to ask any followups.

Hey! I would love a comparison between the new 1010 Blackbox an the Octatrack. I have an octatrack that I want to use as the center of everything, but I'm thinking the blackbox will do the same stuff and I'm not sure if I should sell my Octatrack for it or not, or if I should use it with the octatrack somehow. Whatever you can fit into a video with both of those devices would be amazing!


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