Freddie de Bore
Added 2021-12-01 20:16:55 +0000 UTCThe ladies do a post mortem on the last episode and discuss Freddie de Boer's recent pieces for Substack and The NYT.
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it’s been over a month 😢
2022-01-03 03:33:16 +0000 UTCLoved this episode, but 100% it's rigged against socialist candidates lol. Of course some people can overcome the establishment and break through like Trump did in 2016, but it shouldn't be that difficult to get a candidate through with policies people want, like Bernie with medicare for all. It's all rigged, fake and gay. For sure though people like AOC are making socialism unpalatable and unpopular, but I still believe Bernie would've been the democratic candidate in 2016 and 2020 without all of the outside interference... not saying he would've won, who knows, but when you have your own party in conjunction with the mainstream media doing everything to cockblock you it's always gonna be near impossible. Now people want to rewrite the DNC rigging theory down to crazy conspiracies to make liberal lefties look bad. Anyway Bernie was cucked at the end of the day and should've called it out and done more of a Trump vibe, so that's on him.
Jacques Peterson
2021-12-30 02:10:26 +0000 UTCAdjani is wearing spring court sneaks in that photo
2021-12-26 19:12:23 +0000 UTCAnna you would look amazing in tabis I think you should just do it
2021-12-21 20:06:27 +0000 UTCHave him on the pod
Haleigh miller
2021-12-14 18:03:43 +0000 UTCFor real!
2021-12-09 16:37:09 +0000 UTCCome through bitches I need a new ep for my ennui
Jane Oslo
2021-12-08 20:29:52 +0000 UTCY’all exist in DROVES i promise
Lars
2021-12-07 18:59:59 +0000 UTCBring on Freddie de Boer and have him say it to your face. Lol
2021-12-06 22:45:12 +0000 UTCIt's beneath his dignity.
Raphael
2021-12-06 18:31:10 +0000 UTCEek…I’m that chick who conforms to all the little rhetorical rituals of her lib job while definitely “chortling” to red scare. We exist lol
Savannah Campbell
2021-12-06 04:49:34 +0000 UTCThat’s crazy neither of them work. It’s definitely a sign I shouldn’t listen
2021-12-04 19:04:23 +0000 UTCThe Jews took it down.
Raphael
2021-12-04 03:41:39 +0000 UTCWhere’s the Alex jones ep cause it’s not on my Patreon and I need that rn
2021-12-03 20:24:21 +0000 UTCPlease get Mel Gibson on the show.
Elizabeth M007
2021-12-03 18:26:02 +0000 UTCThey should review gwyneth paltrow's new sex series lmfao
nbc
2021-12-03 18:10:40 +0000 UTCthis jungian life baby!
2021-12-03 15:30:49 +0000 UTCBe my friends!
forerunner of Christ
2021-12-03 14:46:04 +0000 UTCas an avid succession stan I adore you on the show, then again I did start watching it because of you lmao
2021-12-03 04:36:33 +0000 UTCFucking way more political and powerful then they will ever cop to. Someone should compile transcripts and put in some book sold by Verso or some shit.
Max Schultz
2021-12-03 03:42:49 +0000 UTCLiterally didn't understand this conversation but go off queens
2021-12-03 02:50:54 +0000 UTCSpeaking of Texas, where's the Red Scare/True Anon deep dive into whether or not Virgil ever existed?
Jen
2021-12-03 02:06:23 +0000 UTC1:13:42 ooof Anna w/ another gem
james
2021-12-03 00:51:57 +0000 UTCDo they have deeply held beliefs though? That was basically the topic of the episode, and they left it at “metaphysical” and “humanist” and “moralist”, but what that means is really anyones guess. Apparently it includes a lot of empathy and understanding for fringe conspiracy theorists, and a lot of disdain for people who are earnest about politics.
Ulysses
2021-12-02 22:13:51 +0000 UTC"Public apologies are meaningless - you apologize in private or it doesn't count" is one of the more insightful things you two have said on here, which is why Alex "repeatedly apologizing" in legal depositions means nothing. I don't think he's evil or untouchable and the episode was good, but there really isn't any need to hedge on what he did to those parents. It was fucked up.
Miles
2021-12-02 22:03:20 +0000 UTCYou are the good guys. You have good taste, unfailing courage and uplifting good humour.
Volcan
2021-12-02 21:28:21 +0000 UTCPlease more vibe check style eps, this one hurt
Dm
2021-12-02 21:23:26 +0000 UTCcontext: am a "zero-gen" immigrant from an Eastern block country (not the one you are thinking of, will bet you). I disagree with quite a bit of their discourse but I pay for this pod, because I do think they: a) give a good alternative to the shit out there (they are kind, they DO offer alternatives, they are cosmopolitan, they are extremely fucking intelligent and fun (wow! how lucky are we? *sorry I can only afford the Basic Bitch fee, ladies) ) and b) give a good positive alternative to the coprophilic SHIT out there "be a bit more curious about the Id and the Unconscious" etc [so sorry to be redundant, from the Department of Redundancy Department]
2021-12-02 21:01:30 +0000 UTCSo if they’re not political nihilists then what are their political beliefs? Critiquing establishment neo-liberals/leftists/the media doesn’t count. Nor does a vague “humanistic” vibe. I get that going to bat for a specific policy or politician would be too gay for them, which… fine. But “everything is dumb” is the nihilist part.
Ulysses
2021-12-02 20:47:59 +0000 UTCmy sincere congratulations (now think about that Al-Anon/AA tip I gave you earlier)
2021-12-02 20:38:51 +0000 UTCI make better money with a bullshit job that lets me post all day.
Gary
2021-12-02 20:33:41 +0000 UTCok thanks brah
2021-12-02 20:32:22 +0000 UTCWho the fuck is this Ben tard? Is he employed by the publisher? Dude, get a real job.
2021-12-02 20:29:37 +0000 UTCWhat substance is there to critique? I don’t necessarily disagree with you here, but I am criticizing the lack of substance in their defense. Alterating between passion and dispassion, for example, isn’t logically incoherent but it’s characteristic of the sort of decadence Freddie is criticizing. I would choose different words than him, but he’s not wrong. They gave a fine defense of Alex Jones, etc. but their response to Freddie De Boer was inconsistent if not incoherent, and seemed evasive, cowardly.
Gary
2021-12-02 20:26:44 +0000 UTC“Embrace” self-criticism? What kind of skill is that? It’s literally one’s own criticism. Of course they embrace it. They wrote it, and editorialized it, etc. This is just standard PR mitigation. Now if they could embrace criticism received from others without replacing it with their own, that might be worth commending.
Gary
2021-12-02 20:08:28 +0000 UTCThis is the only thing in the episode that they give a proper defense for. Wrt Freddie, they should have taken the angle that he was just fueling the same old narrative which uses Alex Jones as a distraction. AJ has always been more earnest than Anna or Dasha. He convincingly believes in certain things, which is more than can be said for either of them. His willingness to risk humility on account of his beliefs is attractive to a lot of people, and the same goes for Freddie De Boer. Anna and Dasha are terrified of the consequences of believing in or committing to anything, especially politically.
Gary
2021-12-02 19:55:18 +0000 UTC@Ben you are making stylistic critique, not substantive.
ssj
2021-12-02 19:51:14 +0000 UTCNot sure what you mean by “worldview” but Lasch was earnest and judicious. Anna and Dasha, especially Anna, is first and foremost cocky. Big difference.
Gary
2021-12-02 19:46:45 +0000 UTCI love the increasing rhetoric about the merits of hard work from erstwhile "bohemian layabouts." You do hard work well--understand the importance of aesthetics, embrace self criticism, and you are fucking entertaining. Not horny for you. --appreciative faggot
2021-12-02 18:44:33 +0000 UTCRunning offense for Alex Jones. So fucking lame.
2021-12-02 17:52:01 +0000 UTCHoping that when Dasha says ‘This Jungian Life’ she’s referring to the incredible podcast which I love hehe
Gorgeous
2021-12-02 13:49:08 +0000 UTCA&D have a consistent Laschian worldview and for Freddie to say otherwise is pathetic.
ssj
2021-12-02 13:43:29 +0000 UTCNothing gayer than writing a fucking essay on a patreon comment
Dude Where's My Quran
2021-12-02 12:10:36 +0000 UTCSo you’re not political nihilists, evidenced by your lack of political beliefs? Isn’t that the definition of political nihilism? “Morals” absent a deliberate project are more often anti-political than political in practice. If not an intentional joke altogether, is Dasha’s nod to so-called “spirituality” really expected to stand-in for purpose? Could you present yourselves anymore superficially? If you intended to give a worthwhile defense, just shutting up sooner would have been more convincing than what you did here. You forgot to criticize Freddie’s actual politics. You acknowledged that other people conflate his politics with different, unpopular politics then you proceeded do the same conflating yourself wherever convenient. Criticize his actual politics, cowards! Ideally, you would have done so during all those awkward pauses which resulted from trying to act like you had a point to make. Your other so-called criticism was just a tautology; that Freddie’s political goals cannot be achieved because they haven’t been achieved yet and are not popular right now. Confusing what is with what ought to be is the oldest most BORING debate tactic. You’re failing yourselves on every count. At least put on a show instead of just playing deaf, dumb, and blind. This episode only aids Freddie’s analysis, and if your fans are stupid enough to not care that all you could do is stumble in circles about it for 2 hours that doesn’t help. If you want to criticize Freddie, his latest book is a good target. He needlessly takes the side of nature against nurture in the higher learning debate. He argues against the ideal of universal higher education, with some discussion of wage starvation but most of his focus goes to the problem of most people being too stupid. And he goes curiously soft on the for-profit nature of higher learning institutions. It’s a very strange angle for a self-described Marxist.
Gary
2021-12-02 09:38:20 +0000 UTCLmfao nvrmd they just said that
2021-12-02 08:02:40 +0000 UTCIsn't Freddie putting your picture up in the first article, "chumming the water"
2021-12-02 08:02:07 +0000 UTCFreddie is flawed, but overall a good voice. Perhaps better for his flaws.
2021-12-02 06:05:29 +0000 UTCAnna, if you ever read this — I’m a Desi / South Asian and I kindly demand that you do your impression of an Indian accent. My life will be incomplete if you don’t. Thank you, come again.
2021-12-02 05:42:21 +0000 UTCYeah he'll love this + would definitely go on the pod
2021-12-02 02:58:05 +0000 UTCI’m just thankful Dasha didn’t shoot her damn foot like she was about to in Texas on one of her stories last week. Thankfully she had a MAN to save the day and teach her a little bit of gun safety.
Kevin
2021-12-02 02:22:04 +0000 UTCThree episodes in all of November. Really getting my money's worth !
nbc
2021-12-02 02:04:13 +0000 UTChey man get a grip
2021-12-02 01:20:56 +0000 UTCGod damn you to see the dead Sandy Hook children every time you look at your own
christo stefan
2021-12-02 00:42:32 +0000 UTCI found this to be a very insightful episode, both politically and personally. Love you dames.
David
2021-12-02 00:34:14 +0000 UTCAmazing ep, the “final boss of leftism” critique could apply to almost every leftist media figure, they’re so poisoned by their own bullshit. btw Freddie posts nearly every day on the red scare sub and has done so for like a year so he will definitely see this
Matt Burgess
2021-12-02 00:23:44 +0000 UTCThe once and future king of the dirtbag left
La synarquista
2021-12-01 23:58:14 +0000 UTCLadies ladies I’m 100% certain that FdB is very cheekily on your side, I hope this ep goes after him all in good fun
La synarquista
2021-12-01 23:57:23 +0000 UTC52:15 At university in England and surrounded by social justice pronouns-in-bio 19 year olds. I suspect they do listen to the pod and secretly enjoy it, even if they publicly disavow.
Daniel
2021-12-01 23:10:46 +0000 UTCFor the most part
2021-12-01 23:01:25 +0000 UTClove you ladies!!!
Jaqueline Bacich-Parratt
2021-12-01 22:52:01 +0000 UTCDasha you on succession is perfection. Perfectly aligned, shining bright. Bitches be so jealous.
2021-12-01 22:47:12 +0000 UTComg I would love an episode with Jordan Peterson…I feel like you guys would have a really interesting conversation
gossamer
2021-12-01 22:38:10 +0000 UTCIsaiah 54:17 No weapon forged against me shall prosper… bitch lol 📖
NiceNeverKnowingU
2021-12-01 22:35:45 +0000 UTCPlez
2021-12-01 22:14:17 +0000 UTCI love Freddie
2021-12-01 22:09:17 +0000 UTCI bet he’d come on
Nick
2021-12-01 21:44:31 +0000 UTCDasha I know you don’t need the extra income but plllllz sell your unwanted clothes on Depop!
Lucie
2021-12-01 21:30:58 +0000 UTCOh god 52:00 - 52:50. Hello? Why aren’t these sluts in office. What a r——-d world.
Ben Seales
2021-12-01 21:28:25 +0000 UTC47:30 socialism became somewhat popular because the target of its ire is billionaire crooks on Wall St, whom most people hate. Wokeism is a movement aimed at reconstructing the behavioural norms of ordinary people through top-down browbeating. Edit: Just got to the hour mark, where you say something similar to this.
poodie
2021-12-01 21:23:34 +0000 UTCScary merch looks pretty festive to me
DDDilettante
2021-12-01 20:48:03 +0000 UTCLadies can we have some vile neolibby Xmas merch... I’m so bored by Amazon detritus and mulch 🤢
Ben Seales
2021-12-01 20:34:10 +0000 UTCI’m still ridin’ high off the last banger.
Spaghetti Again
2021-12-01 20:24:02 +0000 UTC