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August Patreon reward - GASP! WITH the pdf

Hello Patreons!

Thanks for supporting us – we have had some great competition puzzle packs in the last couple of months (thanks ZooZ, Panthera, TheAsylm and Grkles!), but this month’s competition returns to something genuinely approachable. We call this Genuinely Approachable Sudoku/Puzzles (GASP) as it mixes sudoku with some of the more popular and understandable pencil puzzle types.

You can see the puzzles in the attached document, which also has links to play them in our software. These really are genuinely approachable - give them a try!

Good luck,

Simon & Mark

Comments

It's the sum of the next 2 or 3 digits in the direction that the arrow is pointing to. For each arrow, whether it's the next 2 or the next 3 needs to be determined by the solver

I think I must be misunderstanding the GASP Kakuro puzzle. "A digit in a cell with an arrow is the sum of the two or three adjoining cells pointed at by the arrow". If a cell has one arrow, it is the sum of the two nearest cells that the arrow is pointing at? If a cell has two arrows, is it the sum of those two adjacent digits? Or something else?

finally got around to doing this after a crazy month; nice, easy puzzles!

Benny Ng

I didn't see that at all! I solved the minesweeper puzzle correctly but had to deduce what the number was (it is actually quite easy as none of the other possibilities can work)

This comment really helped me understand the ruleset. It was not well worded in the instructions and had the same interpretation as ProfMeow did and wondered how I couldn't solve the puzzle.Thank you Jay Forty 🙂

Nice to have that moment :)

Jason Bau

My brain finally clued in and clicked...got it! :)

Same here...I'm still grappling with it. Not a big minesweeper player as a child.

Thank you for explaining. I don't know why but that rule was hard for me to understand!

Tiffany Holzer

I did the first two on my phone, then switched to laptop for the third. I didn't see from my phone's screen that in puzzle 2, r2c7 is in a square. So that number is the "mine" and in puzzle 3, all grey squares show many mines are in the surrounding cells. Now I got it.

Juha-Matti Heikkinen

You copy them into the exact same cells into puzzle 2 -- the one from row 7 goes into row 7, the other into row 9.

ProfMeow

I assumed they had to be in the same order...

Jason Bau

Took me longer to understand the directions of the third one than it did to solve it :) I just couldn't grasp what I was supposed to do there :)

Jason Bau

I see my problem: I couldn't see the square at r2c7 in puzzle 2! It's there -- but really hard to spot. OK, having finished puzzle 2 I now know what the magic digit is, and all I should be able to finish from here. Thanks for the clarification!

ProfMeow

My first time doing a puzzle hunt on release day—and finishing them all! Loved this one, thank you guys!

Do the 2 * digits from puzzle one have to be in the same order or can they switch?

No. The digit in a grey cell is the number of times the digit X appears in the cells surrounding the grey cell. X is the digit from row 2 column 7 in puzzle 2. It's not very clearly marked in the puzzle, but there is a thin square in that cell in puzzle 2. That is the only way puzzle 2 affects puzzle 3. All grey cells count the same digit, X.

They seem to be just like regular arrows, except that we don't know how long they are -- 2 cells or 3. But they're independent the way two regular arrows coming out of the same circle would be.

ProfMeow

So -- to be concrete -- r8c5 in puzzle 2 is a given digit; it's a 7. Then when I get to puzzle 3, I look at the 7s in the 8 cells adjoining r8c5 OF PUZZLE 3, count how many there are (let's say there's just 1) and put that total into r8c5 in the new puzzle (in my example, I'd put 1). Put another way -- the shaded cells in puzzle 3 count the number of MEOW in their neighboring cells in their own puzzle, where the value of MEOW is whatever number was in the shaded cell's position in puzzle 2.

ProfMeow

Ooooh, thank you for clarifying. Actually that does make things a lot easier!

No, it means that both directions must sum to 9, e.g. one direction is a 4/5 then other direction is a 1/2/6

I'm not sure I understand the arrows either. I've made a few assumptions but not sure I'm correct. For example, for the cells with 2 arrows, if there is a 9 in that cell then would there be a 4 in 1 direction and a 5 in the other direction and those together sum to 9. Or possibly a 4 in one direction and a 2 3 in the other. Or am I way off-base here.

It's simpler than that, it's just treating the digit that was in the square from the last puzzle as the "mine". For example if it was a 1 in the box from puzzle 2, the grey cells would count the # of 1's around it.

No, it refers to the square in row 2, column 7, in puzzle 2. Let's say that digit is 9. In puzzle 3, all grey squares now counts how many 9s there are in the cells around the grey square.

The cell with the arrow in it is the sum of the next 2 or 3 digits in the direction of the arrow.

Yes

I could really use some clarification about the arrows in the first clue.

Jeremy Loukas

For the third puzzle: a digit in a shaded cell counts how many of its own neighbors (up to 8) "are the digit in the square from the last puzzle" -- I assume that means "have the same value as the corresponding cell in the last puzzle," in other words, for r8c5, we count how many squares of box 8 have the same value in puzzles 2 and 3, not counting r8c5 itself. Is that right?

ProfMeow

question about the first puzzle. when it says "A digit in a cell with an arrow is the sum of the two or three adjoining cells pointed at by the arrow", does that mean that cells with two arrows each arrow independently sums to the value in the cell?

Jonathan Griffith

I feel a "good grief" in the air.

Yeah. I made an archive of all of them back in January. Only difficulty is some are presented as documents and others are presented as links. I absolutely recommend the Egyptian themed puzzle hunt from October/November, that was an amazing series of puzzles of all kinds. Probably the best one they ever released, that and the Star Wars one from end of the 2021, but that was brutally difficult. Puzzles from world class setters, and utter sadists.

The ultimate chaos construction - no digits, no regions, no rules, no solutions yet on Logic Masters Germany - no wonder Simon is terrified ...

Definitely go back and try some of the old puzzle hunts. There are some fantastic puzzles in the archive!

Mr Pudifoot

Pulled the trigger and became a Patron after being a long-time fan. Ready for the knowledge bombs.

It just wouldn't be a CtC Patreon reward without a few snaffus at launch haha

Come on Simon and Mark! haha

So good at solving puzzles. So bad at including attachments.

These puzzles are so approachable, you don't even have to see them to be able to solve them :)

Is this a reference to the monthly puzzle prompt?

UltraLuigi

My best yet all attached puzels finshed in 10 minutes.


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