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Episode 64: A GAME OF THRONES, DAENERYS VIII: "Shadow Puppets" SHOW NOTES!

Hello and welcome to the Not A Cast … podcast: the one true chapter-by-chapter podcast going through A Song of Ice and Fire one chapter a week. I’m one of your hosts Jeff better known as BryndenBFish. 

And I’m your other host Emmett, better known as PoorQuentyn. 

Welcome to the sixty-fourth episode of the Not A Cast, entitled: “Shadow Puppets: An Analysis of AGOT, Daenerys VIII,” in which George gets his horror on as everything collapses around Dany--personally, politically, and of course, magically. 

This episode is brought to you by our Small Council: 

Thank you councillors very much!

Spoiler warning: All published books - 5 novels, 3 Dunk and Egg novellas, histories, interviews, TWOW sample chapters, as well as Game of Thrones the TV show. Anything and everything!

Question

Lady Karalee asks:

Are there any theories, essays or predictions that Dany will turn into an actual dragon at some point? I keep thinking about the Targs that tried or thought they could (esp. the Mad King hoping too rise like a Phoenix), as well as lightbringer being tempered 3 times. Dany has burned twice (do you think she will burn something to get out of her Dothraki situation in the book?) I wonder what would happen if she burns 3 times.

Also, is there a character you really want to make it? Mine is Gilly. She has had so much sadness and I just want her to be warm and safe and happy.

Synopsis

Bloodflies, large as bees, gross, purplish, glistening close-in on Khal Drogo to Daenerys Targaryen’s horror. Death is coming for Khal Drogo, and Daenerys knows it at a subconscious level. Where Drogo had once reached out, quick as a cat, and snatched bloodflies from the air before crushing them to death, the bloodflies are now landing on Drogo’s horse, low-crawling up the hide and making their way towards the great khal. All the while, Drogo stares at distant hills.

Well, this is an utterly horrifying way to open a chapter. Sure hope George subverts our expectations and the chapter closes with flowers, sunshine and gumdrop smiles!

Oh, and then he began to scream.

We flashback to Drogo after their departure from the Lhazarene Town. The poultice that Mirri Maz Duur placed over Drogo’s wound had caused an unbearable itch and Drogo had ripped it off. A mud plaster the eunuch slaves fashioned for him had soothed Drogo’s itch while herbwomen made Drogo poppy wine, fermented mare’s milk and pepper beer that the Khal had drank vigorously.

But even though he wasn’t itching so bad while they rode, the nights showed Drogo’s true state. He would writhe in pain, groaning and his face stretched out in anguish. And while all this was happening, the unborn Rhaego grew restless in Daenerys’ belly. And very sadly, Drogo’s interest even in Rhaego had drifted away. 

And now, ahorse, his eyes fixed on distant hills, Drogo is silent. And that was scaring Dany.

We return to the present as one of the flies lands on Drogo’s shoulder, another on his neck. And Drogo begins to lean to left, lean to the right. Criss-cross this time. But his stallion presses on.

My lord, Dany said. Drogo. My sun-and-stars.

Drogo doesn’t seem to hear here. Another fly settles on his cheek. Dany reaches out for him, touching his arm and Drogo falls from his horse, the flies scattering from Drogo’s body.

A pregnant Dany vaults from her horse and rushes over to a Drogo crying out in pain. His breath rasps as he cries out for his horse. Dany touches Drogo and feels Drogo’s hot and burning skin with her finger. Drogo’s bloodriders come pounding up from behind, shouting as they dismount their horses and rush over to Drogo.

No, Khal Drogo groaned, struggling in Dany’s arms. “Must ride. Ride. No.”

Drogo’s bloodrider Haggo states that Drogo fell from his horse, but Dany tells him to shut it. They’re making camp here. Haggo is skeptical. This brown, waterless ground is no campsite. Where will they even park their camper? Another bloodrider Qotho helpfully puts in that he’s not taking orders from some woman, not even a khaleesi. But Dany won’t let let them refuse her command. They’re camping here, and if anyone asks, Drogo commanded it. Her time to give birth was near.

Dany orders Drogo’s tent to be erected, but her bloodriders scoff at her. But when she orders Mirri Maz Duur to be brought to Drogo, the khal’s bloodriders practically mutiny right then and there. Qotho says he will NOT do that, but Dany tells him there’s a goddamn chain of command, and you know what that means? To paraphrase Jayne from Firefly, it means that if you don’t go and get Mirri, Drogo is going to beat you to death with a chain when he wakes up. Qotho scurries away, galloping off in anger. But Dany knows that he’ll return with Mirri.

Daenerys orders the slaves erect Drogo’s tent beneath a shadow underneath a black rock which … Dany, we really should talk about how you are consistently choosing incredibly, fucking ominous sites to rest your feet for a minute before major plot beats erupt in the narrative. It’s as if you are a book character and the author is thumbing the scales or something.

Ahem. Where was I? Ah, yes.

Everyone helps Drogo get inside the tent as he continues to cry out No, no, no. Doreah and Jhiqui get Drogo nice and nude, and then Jhiqui suggests opening the tent flap to let the cool breeze in, but Dany ain’t gonna let the khalasar catch a glimpse of Drogo in the state that he’s in.

Admit no one without my leave. No one.

Eroeh, the Lhazarene girl Dany saved in Dany VII, whispers that Drogo is going to die, and Dany proceeds to slap her, saying that he’s not going to die. He’s a champion. His hair has never been cut. But Khaleesi, Jhiqui says, he fell from his horse. 

And it’s in that moment that Dany knows the truth. Drogo had fallen from his horse, and lots of people saw that event. And they wouldn’t keep it a secret. Dany realizes that Drogo’s fall would have big, fucking consequences.

A khal who could not ride could not rule, and Drogo had fallen from his horse.

Dany engages in some cognitive dissonance, ordering cool water to be fetched and Drogo to be bathed in cool water. When he’s placed into his tub, his mouth and eyes open, but Dany hears no words coming from his mouth and realizes that no sight is reaching his eyes.

Aggravated and scared, Dany wonders where the hell Mirri Maz Duur is as tepid water is placed into the tub. She undoes Drogo’s braid, laying his bells aside, thinking that Drogo would want them when he wakes. But then a gust of air comes from outside, and her kha Aggo comes in to tell Dany that Jorah is waiting for her outside of the tent. Dany bids Aggo to tell Jorah to come into the tent.

Jorah Mormont enters the tent, wearing his best Lawrence of Arabia costume he picked up from the local Party City, and tells Dany that word is getting around about Drogo’s fall. Dany tells him to help Drogo, and the knight goes to Drogo’s side. The knight orders Dany to dismiss her handmaid, then he then takes his knife out and cuts away the dry plaster that the eunuchs put on Drogo’s wound. A foul smell of death fills the room as Dany sees that the wound has festered.

No, Dany whispered as tears ran down her cheeks. No, please, gods hear me, no.

But Jorah tells Dany that Drogo is good as dead. Dany does some stage-1 grief, saying that Drogo can’t die. He must not. She won’t let him die. But Jorah only tells her that he’s gonna die, dude. And then Jorah, probably realizing that this is his big chance to spirit away the girl he’s projecting Lynesse Hightower onto, tells Dany that now ain’t the time for tears. Later, sure (after we’ve boned). Now we gotta get the fuck outta here.

Wait, what? Why? Where the hell would they even go? 

Asshai, I would say. It lies far to the south, at the end of the known world, yet men say it is a great port. We will find a ship to take us back to Pentos. It will be a hard journey, make no mistake. Do you trust their khas? Will they come with us?

Yeah, Dany trusts them, but if Drogo dies … she leaves the thought unfinished, but we know what she’s thinking. She doesn’t understand why they need to go though. She’s carrying Drogo’s unborn child, a boy who will be khal after Drogo.

But Jorah knows better. That ain’t gonna happen, Dany. The Dothraki follow strength. When Drogo dies, his kos are going to have a merry civil war over who will be khal, and Rhaego will be taken from Dany and fed to dogs. 

Buy why, Dany cries. Why should they kill a little baby?
He is Drogo’s son, and the crones say he will be the stallion who mounts the world. It was prophesied. Better to kill the child than to risk his fury when he grows to manhood.

Gotta admit, there’s a sick, evil logic to what the Dothraki would do to Rhaego even as I fundamentally recoil at a moral horror of it all. At least, the unborn Rhaego recoils with me at the thought of being murdered as he kicks Dany’s belly, and Dany remembers what the “Usurper’s dogs” had done to poor Rhaenys and Aegon: Rhaegar’s kids. They’d been babies too, but that hadn’t prevented their murders either.

Dany boils over in emotion, stating that the Dothraki can’t hurt Rhaego. Her khas will protect her. But, again, Jorah is there to remind Dany of the cultural context she’s currently in:

A bloodrider dies with his khal. You know that, child. They will take you to Vaes Dothrak, to the crones, that is the last duty they owe him in life … when it is done, they will join Drogo in the night lands.

Dany ain’t about going back to Vaes Dothrak. So, she states that she’s not going to leave Drogo. And who should arrive at the very moment but Mirri Maz Duur to help ensure that Drogo doesn’t die -- sort-of, not really, oh my god, not really at all.

The godswife enters the tent with Qotho and Haggo carrying her chest of poisons - WAIT - medicines behind her. When his bloodriders see the state Drogo is in, they drop the chest of magic poisons to the ground as Mirri examines Drogo. 

Mirri’s analysis is that Drogo’s wound has festered. Yeah, it’s your fault, you fucking murderer, Qotho and Haggo say with their words and punch Mirri Maz Duur in the face and subsequently kicks her when she falls to the ground. Dany’s screams at them to stop, but Qotho says that these kicks are too merciful for Mirri:

Take her outside. We will stake her to the earth, to be the mount of every passing man. And when they are done with her, the dogs will use her as well. Weasels will tear out her entrails and carrion crows feast upon her eyes. The flies off the river shall lay their eggs in her womb and drink pus from the ruins of her breasts.

Well, no one’s gonna top that.

But Dany won’t let them hurt her. But Qotho mock-smiles at Dany and says that no woman tells him no. She’s lucky that they don’t stake her to the ground next to Mirri. Drogo’s death is as much Dany’s fault as Mirri’s. Then Jorah steps between the bloodriders and Dany, telling him to get fucked. Dany is still khaleesi.

Only while the blood-of-my-blood still lives. When he dies, she is nothing, Qotho retorts.

Dany feels a tightness in her.

Before I was khaleesi, I was the blood of the dragon. Ser Jorah, summon my khas.

But before we can get some hot Dothraki on Dothraki action, Qotho and Haggo go scurrying away for now.

When they’re gone, Jorah tells Dany that these guys are fearless -- no, not because they’re Dothraki. Because they know they’re dead men. A Dead man is beyond fear. Dany shoots back that no one has died yet. But Jorah, you’re going to need to get your armor and sword on quick fast and in a hurry. Jorah bows and leaves the tent.

Now alone with Mirri, the godswife tells Dany that she’s saved her yet again. Well, return the fucking favor, Mirri. Save Drogo, please. Mirri gets all sarcastic, saying you don’t ask a slave, you tell her. Mirri takes another look at Drogo and comes back with the same conclusion as before. No healer is going to help Drogo now. Mirri adopts her best doctorly you haven’t quit smoking yet after I told you to quit, have you, Jeff tone of voice and states that Drogo has been drinking milk of the poppy and hasn’t kept the poultice she made for him on the wound. Dany admits that all these things are true, but Doc, I’m going to quit smoking this time. I swear it.

Mirri tells Dany that it’s too late. Drogo’s already got the lung cancer (is this joke getting annoying? Whatever.) He’s going to die. All Mirri can do now is not be the doctor anymore. She’ll be Drogo’s medic though. And what is the difference between a medic and a doctor? Well, to quote my favorite line from the hottest viral video from 2004: Red vs. Blue. A doctor cures people. A medic just makes people feel better … while they die.

Mirri Maz Duur’s words hit Dany like a bag of avocado toast dropped from a very high height. (It would still hurt, guys) She begs Mirri to save Drogo. Y’know, use some magic spells or some shit. 

And then Mirri leans back, smiling on the inside:

There is a spell. Her voice was quiet, scarcely more than a whisper. But it is hard, lady, and dark. Some would say that death is cleaner. I learned the way in Asshai, and paid dear for the lesson. My teacher was a bloodmage from the Shadow Lands.

Oh shit, bloodmages? Dammit, Emmett. I thought this was a historical fiction novel. Where the hell did all these fantasy elements come in?

Dany grows cold all over and says that Mirri truly is the maegi everyone said she was. 

Am I? Mirri Maz Duur smiled. Only a maegi can save your rider now, Silver Lady.

It just doesn’t seem all that appropriate to speaking in riddles and smiling at this moment, Emmett. I mean, Drogo is lying there dying, and Mirri’s got this shit-eating grin stretching across her face. Wonder if there’s more at work behind that smile? Oh well. Go listen to Episode 61 to find out more! 

Dany asks if there’s no other way to save Drogo’s life. Mirri says, nope, sorry. Can’t you help there. It’s either sorcery or the highway to hell. Dany tells her to do it, but Mirri says there’s a price to pay. Okay, fine. Dany will pay her in gold, gems. Whatever money she wants. Uh, no. That’s not what Mirri Maz Duur means. She needs blood. Only life may pay for death.

Dany shudders and thinks that Mirri is talking about her death. Not your death, khaleesi, Mirri tells her. Whew! Bring his horse instead.

Well, next Jhogo is leading Drogo’s terrified, screaming red stallion into the tent. Dany asks Mirri what she plans to do, and Mirri says they need blood. She already said this, Dany. Jhogo puts his hand on his arakh and pleads with Dany not to do this. And can we please now just kill Mirri Maz Duur? But, no. Dany won’t have her killed and even if it is forbidden blood magic. It’s the same as when Dany ate the horse heart to give Rhaego strength. The same. The same.

Aggo and Jhogo then pull the horse towards the tub where Drogo floats as if he’s already dead with blood and pus seeping into the water, and then Mirri Maz Duur chants words and draws a knife that Dany never saw coming, and this is just such an interesting description of the knife, I have to read it:

It looked old; hammered red bronze, leaf-shaped, its blade covered with ancient glyphs.

Mirri cuts the horses throat with her sacrificial knife, and the horse screams as blood pours into the bath. Dany’s bloodriders hold the horse in place so it doesn’t collapse as Mirri chants and sings about the strength of the beast going into the man. All the while, Jhogo looks fucking terrified, because OH MY GOD, WE’RE DOING FUCKING BLOOD MAGIC IN THIS HISTORICAL FICTION NOVEL, EMMETT. 

When the horse finally bleeds out into a tub now filled with blood, Dany’s khas let the beast fall to the ground. Burn it, Dany tells Jon, no wait, Dany tells her khas per Dothraki custom. But now, let’s focus more attention on all the blood, because the tent now looks like a room in Patrick Bateman’s house with blood spatter all over the walls and rugs. Hooray?

Braziers are then lit as Mirri Maz Duur tosses some red powder she borrowed from Melisandre onto the coals. Dany and her handmaids are, y’know, a little scared of all this ritual sacrifice and magic rituals. So, Mirri tells Dany and her buds to get out of the tent and don’t come back. Dany says No thanks, I’m not going anywhere, but Mirri tells her:

You must. Once I begin to sing, no one must enter this tent. My song will wake powers old and dark. The dead will dance here this night. No living man must look on them.

For all Mirri Maz Duur is y’know, like not your friend, Dany. This seems like decent advice. So, Dany says, Okay. Fine.

Bring him back to me.

Now outside, Dany finds the sun setting and the sky as a non-foreshadow-y bruised red color.  A hot wind is blowing too. Jhogo and Aggo dig a firepit to burn Drogo’s horse, and Dany finally sees Ser Jorah Mormont in his mail and leather, sweating in the desert heat. He pushes his way over to Dany and asks her what she’s done adding in a you little fool which first off, how dare you, and second-off: She’s saving Khal Drogo of course. But Dany, Jorah whines (and sort-of says), you could have played Lynesse Hightower for me in Asshai. 

Dany stops him. Does Jorah truly consider Dany his princess? Yep, he does. Well, then fucking help, slavebear. But Jorah doesn’t know how.

Then Dany hears Mirri’s voice rising to a high, ululating wail. She turns back and sees the tent alive with light … and shadows. And the shadows were moving. 

Mirri Maz Duur was dancing, and not alone.

Oh my god. What story have we just stepped into? 

Qotho and Haggo step up next to Dany, shouting that This must not be! But Dany gives them the whole This will be response. The two bloodriders are joined by Cohollo, Drogo’s oldest and kindest bloodrider. This man spits full in Dany’s face and joins Qotho and Haggo in calling for Mirri to come out and die. 

Drogo’s bloodriders draw their arakhs and move towards the tent. Dany tries to stop them, but she gets shoved aside by Qotho for her trouble. 

Stop them, she commands her khas, kill them.

Rakharo and Quaro block Qotho, Haggo and Cohollo’s entrance to the tent. Quaro takes a step forward, but Qotho’s arakh cuts into him below the arm and slicing into the muscle and rib bone of Dany’s young ko. He falls backward gasping. Qotho’s just about to go kill the shit out of Mirri, but Jorah Mormont steps forward.

Try me.

Qotho whirls, curses and moves fast with his arakh. It nearly gets Jorah’s face, but Jorah is able to parry with his longsword. Jorah had gotten most of his armor on, but he hadn’t put a helmet on. It’s hardly heroic. Qotho dances around trying to get a Jorah’s head or gaps in his armor, and slavebear does his best to dodge, dip, duck, dive and … dodge away from Qotho’s cuts. One of arakh blows glances off Jorah’s lobstered gauntlet and next Dany sees Jorah stumbling backwards, blood running down his face as Qotho calls him a dickless milkman which makes me giggle. I shouldn’t.

You die now! Qotho screams, making me giggle less.

Another savage cut, this one at Jorah’s hip where the armor was gapped, and Jorah grunts but sadly, sadly doesn’t die. The arakh catches in Jorah’s bone, and Jorah brings his longsword down on Qotho cutting his arm nearly off. The next sword blow lands on Qotho’s ear resulting in, and I quote George RR martin here, Qotho’s face seeming to explode.

Then, utter fucking chaos breaks out all around Daenerys. Dothraki shout. Mirri Maz Duur wails with the shadows, Quaro dies pleading for water. Rakharo fights with Haggo until Jhogo coils his whip around Haggo’s throat before Rakharo brings his arakh down on Haggo’s head. Someone throws a rock which lol, who was the jabroni who did that?

But Dany begins pleading with universe to make it stop. She weeps that the price is too high. She tries crawling towards the tent, but Cohollo catches her and starts dragging her back by her hair. He puts a knife to her throat, and dany screams My baby. And the gods seemingly hear Dany as one of Aggo’s arrows (Remember the Dothraki using arrows?) catches Cohollo under his arm, killing him.

Exhausted, Dany raises her head to find the crowd dispersing with the Dothraki returning to their tents and sleeping bags. The sun is gone and the sky has turned black. But fires burn orange against the night sky. Dany rises to her feet with no strength left. She gasps, still hearing Mirri Maz Duur. But now her voice is like a funeral dirge. And the shadows still dance and whirl.

Jorah Mormont’s arm hooks under her waist and lifts her off her feet. She sees that his face is still sticky with blood and part of his left ear was gone. She convulses in pain, hears the knight shouting her Dany’s handmaids to help. Doreah timidly comes forward and tells Dany and Jorah that no one will come. The Dothraki think Dany cursed. Jorah threatens to behead people who won’t come, but Doreah tells him They are gone, my lord. 

The maegi, someone else said. Was that Aggo? Take her to the maegi.

Dany tries to say no, not that, you mustn’t. But when she opens her mouth, only a long wail of pain comes out.

What was wrong with them, couldn’t they see?

Dany turns to the tent, seeing shadows circling and dancing. And some of the shadows, well, they don’t look human anymore. 

She glimpsed the shadow of a great wolf, and another like a man wreathed in flames.

Irri tells Jorah that Mirri knows the secrets of the birthing bed, and Doreah agrees. Dany tries to scream NO again, but nothing comes out of her lips again. She was being carried and had lost her mouth to scream.

Her eyes opened to gaze up at a flat dead sky, black and bleak and starless. Please, no. The sound of Mirri Maz Duur’s voice grew louder, until it filled the world. The shapes! She screamed. The dancers!
Ser Jorah carried her inside the tent.

And that is AGOT, Daenerys VIII.

Did …

What …

How …

Why …

What did I just read, Emmett?

Depth

Dany VIII is the ultimate bad trip. Everything is bleak, everyone is miserable, every square inch of this chapter is oozing blood and sweat and pus and sorcery and death. It makes me sick to my stomach, every time I read it. Which I do a lot, because I love it so much. 

As with the Whispering Wood and all the gorgeous prose we discussed last week, Dany VIII is a case study in writing an effective mood piece. This one is exploring a very different mood, though. It’s as if George turned to the audience and said “Enjoying the high fantasy, everybody? Good, good! Now you may have forgotten since the prologue, but I cut my teeth in horror…”

And the audience goes “wait, what?”

And George goes “HERE WE GO!” He snaps his fingers, and the nightmare begins. Like the prologue, it’s all about the descent. The sense of a trap slowly agonizingly springing shut. Before we get into all the imagery and themes and ways this chapter builds on what’s come before in Dany’s story, that viciously precise structure is what makes Dany VIII such a stand-alone masterpiece of horror. It’s a perfectly constructed highway to hell. 

“And now you must save him,” Dany said. “Please . . . ”

“You do not ask a slave,” Mirri replied sharply, “you tell her.” 

Foreshadowing/Groundwork

Jorah proposing to take Dany to Asshai might be another case of abandoned foreshadowing in book one, as Dany was eventually supposed to visit Mordor Town in person. This seems to have persisted in book two, in which our favorite character Quaithe also urges Dany to go to Asshai, specifically to find “truth.” This storyline probably died with the five-year-gap.

Qotho proposing to stake MMD out to be assaulted by every passing man comes true at Harrenhal, where the women who slept with Lannister soldiers are raped by Stark loyalists. I can’t blame people who raise their eyebrows at the sheer amount of sexual violence in the series; beyond any question of realism, it can be numbing in its repetition and thus lose any impact. But most of the individual instances make structural and thematic sense--Qotho’s behavior in this chapter gets us to side with MMD just as Dany does, and the fate of those women at Harrenhal emphasizes that both sides exploit people and Arya needs to get past her assumption that anyone who serves her family are automatically the good guys.

Theory/Discussion

So, we’ve done enough of the character and emotional analysis of scenes from this chapter and touched on the magic, but Emmett, I have to admit something: I’ve read these books numerous times now, and I’ve read and re-read this chapter about a half-dozen times in the past two weeks alone. BUT! I still don’t fully understand what’s going on at the end with Mirri Maz Duur. I mean, I get the basic plot mechanics, but I don’t understand several things at a more deeper level. Broadly, I don’t understand: what was Mirri Maz Duur hoping to achieve here? What was the type of magic she was using? I mean, hell, I’ll start with a fundamental question that I still don’t have a good answer to:

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