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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Modern women have an infinity complex

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Modern women have an infinity complex

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Hi Alex. I like all your videos, have been watching them for a while finally decided to subscribe properly. Three points: 1) Even dating through social circles is awkward. I live in London, where the social life and dating culture are as much a shitheap as anywhere else. Even with a good social circle, the majority of ‘singles’ you meet are *not* relationship material. They’re hooking up left and centre, or dating multiple guys at a time and just not worth the squeeze. Dating through social circles is better, but still faces similar limitations. A lot of people are very casual about the sorts of friends and company they keep. They don’t necessarily have particularly high standards. 2) You recommend building your social circles via male friends. I totally agree, with one caveat, that is you should hold your male friends to the same high standards you would expect from women. A lot of guys also have crap morals and would sleep around if the opportunity presented itself, regardless of if those women might be looking for a serious relationship and get left very disappointed, or might even already be in a relationship that they’re cheating on. I’ve known plenty of guys like that. And trash men attract trash women, and vice versa. 3) I agree that dating apps suck. However the thought occurred to me a few months ago: “what if, as a warning shot, I could tattoo on my forehead the contempt I have for people who cheat or do other monkey business”. Dating apps, counterintuitively, are the best place to do this in writing, with 0 ambiguity. I make my boundaries *very* clear right from the start. And so I started using Hinge. I did not set my expectations high. I was not expecting loads matches, nor did I want loads of matches anyway. Just the right ones. I’ve had two so far, in about 3 months (lol). Albeit neither are entirely 1st choice material for myself, both have been good quality, and we’ll probably at least stay good friends knowing that we share reasonably similar values, and potentially introduce one another to other friends with similar values. And I’m sure that something good will probably come of it in some shape or other. Dating apps can work if you’re very firm, bordering on dogmatic, about your boundaries, values, and what you’re looking for. Those prerequisites are imperative to filtering out 90% of the trash on there.

Mark Prothero

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Dave Smith

The sad thing I see is say a 30 year old woman becoming a lesbian or a 15 year old guy becomes gay. As they can’t mentally project 3-5 years in the future, when they are in far better shape and getting far different datings results. Our brains just don’t work like that. We can only ‘feel’ the present reality (or past when it comes to imposter sybdrome). Look at your own porn use, I bet it follows your current situation. If you are pulling 10 girls a day you’re probably watching videos of 5 girls one guy, if you’re not pulling at all probably closer to gangbang videos. This is fascinating as it does sort of ‘clean’ the market with the most feminine guys basically ‘weeding’ themselves out by just becoming gay. But the IQ-Gay ratio I don’t think is an accident either, with someone like wheat waffles being high-risk to become gay, because he might have figured out at 14 girls all like chad’s and simply give up, or start hating them. When in reality, if for 3-5 years he gets an amazing body and moves to philippines he can have an amazing dating life. But is very hard for us to ‘project’ the feeling of status and it is felt years after the fact. Hence guys not finding 22 year olds attractive (because they can’t pull them). I just encourage you to fix your financial + physical situation and will be surprised how your ‘type’ also changes.

Dave Smith

I also think, which I would like to study at some point that attraction is reactive. So if you are 28 and absolutely cannot pull 22 year old’s you will naturally not be attracted to them. I think this is so pronounced that it’s why people become gay and lesbian because they are so unattractive, so removed from the market they ‘actually’ lower their standards so far they exit themselves completely. So my challenge to the guys disagreeing with me is get in far better shape + financial standing and watch 18-22 year olde become attractive to you again as they show interest first. That’s a super non-pc therory which we won’t be able to confirm for a while, but I believe it is true. ‘mouse city’ confirms it to at least some degree.

Dave Smith

I know what is happening, which is that guys are just wanting the opposite to be true, just like women. The reason a 30 year old lawyer is attractive to a 24 year old girl and not a 16 year old girl is purely because it’s not ‘that’ high value. The 16 year old will like guys her age and celebrities, only as she is in her peak. A 30 year old doctor is just too low value for her. People just do all these rationalisations that it’s society or whatever else. It is purely an attraction gap. IF the guy at 30 is so attractive when he talks to a 15 year old she will be attracted, but it has to be really high, like 6’5 model. This ‘creepiness’ will be the same if the lady is 30 the guy is 15x ‘creepiness’ is just the value gap. My point, which is true and almost no one wants to accept, is that guys are also in their peak at that age, being jusr a year difference of 15-17. It is so exceptionally rare that the attraction gap is filled that we (we being female-run societies) make laws saying: “don’t bother”. Just talk to girls 18+ as your value will be too low for a 16 year old. This is why age of consent ‘really’ is raised to 20 in a female-run society. To enforce attractive guys are relocated to 21+ year old women. Essentially trying to ‘force’ attraction and gatekeep attraction levels.

Dave Smith

The ignoring of this reality leads top 1% guys to be married first at 24, then 34, then 44. And having hundreds or thousands of side girls. Eventually finishing with 3-4 kids from 3-4 wives all of the wives being 18-28. So if people are not married 14-17 ALL girls date or chase top 1% guys. Which, actually isn’t that high, it’s just a lawyer who is in shape and 5’11. Hence her saying: “I don’t expect much” it’s just by 20 ALL girls 20-100 now expect and want exactly the same as her and only 1% of guys deliver.

Dave Smith

Dude. I essentially just wrote a book with these responses haha.

Dave Smith

Another way you could phrase ‘peak’ is ‘average’. The ‘average’ number of people ‘overweight’ 14-18 is say 5%. The average ’overweight’ by 25 is 95% and the average ‘overweight’ at 35 is 99.9%. If that number was corrected, a lot more people ‘could’ peak 20-40. I am talking about the general person though and the average amount of attractive people, not you specifically, being on this page you are most likely (or easily could be) the 1% with a good earning + great body as you have the IQ to figure out the game. 99% of people cannot figure out the game. As they can’t 99% of people should get married (in my opinion) 15-17 for girls, 16-18 for guys. The top 1% of guys can then marry someone 18-22. Which, if you think about it, is how the marker arranges itself with the top 1% of girls (most attractive) and top 1% earners of guys all moving to the same places: Dubai, Miami etc. But! It’s the 99% who really have no business being there and I am saying they should have already been married by that point (to each other) Does that clear up my point? I am not saying 14 year olds should marry 70 year olds. I am saying ‘most’ people should be married at those ages as ‘most’ people decline sharply after 18. A 19 year old slightly out of shape uber driver, was an 18 year old sports star in high school a good one year earlier. He should be married by that stage is my point.

Dave Smith

From your own point of view, first I would understand/respect the laws of the country you are in and only date people of legal age/conditions. Secondly, If you also have too unfair laws around marriage and sex, move to somewhere they are more fair (if you can) especially regarding marriage and consensual sex of legal age and I would get in shape + sort out your career as soon as you can. Then marry fast, before your ego catches up to you. When I have kids, I will encourage them to do the same. If I notice my son/daughter is getting lots of attention say 15-16, I will encourage them to get married soon, to avoid their ego blowing up too much a few years later. If they are a bit geeky/out of shape, will get them to sort that out first then worry about dating. And, ideally will be in a country which is fair to both of them, not so unfairly biased to one gender, typically women. So it comes down to where you are at in life.

Dave Smith

What you are missing, is I said both men and women peak 14-16 for women 15-17 for men. In modern times both will delay marrying and heavily decline (because of bad habits) by 25 only 5-10% of them still being attractive, 1% by 35 and miniscule by 45. I am not prescribing what age to date I am purely presenting facts. If I ‘were’ to choose when people should have sex would either be their is no restrictions past puberty and anyone can date whoever they want, personally I would then add they need to be married to restrict the guys who then sleep with 10,000+ girls (good looking celebrities) or make it 20 or so as girls tastes then totally change and stay the same then for life (moving from looks only, to more full-rounded) but anyone younger can’t have sex witu each other. The idea you can call someone under 18 a child, then in the se breath say they can have sex witu each other is ludacris. But, they do this in female-run societies purely as a means of control. If it were up to women the age of consent (for women) would be 50 as they then have the power to punish any man they’ve dated whenever they want. Which, they did implement in Australia calling it ‘enthusiastic consent’. After they put in that law. I stopped talking to/dating all Auatralian women and moved overseas as that is too much of a power imbalance to accept. So I accept your insertion that it is dangerous for an 18 year old to date a 17 year old. But just because something is law, doesn’t mean it is right. And I would argue the right path for both of them, would have being married even younger anyway (to each other).

Dave Smith

But, the ego problem is the biggest, if you get attractive and stay that way. Once it ‘sinks in’. Which we colloquially call ‘overcoming imposter syndrome’ it is then very hard to settle for girls or guys even on your own level. My recommendation to everyone, is get in amazing shape. It is mind blowing how many dates/matches you get just doing that and if you don’t, can just change your tinder location. But. Once you have done this, you need to pick someone pretty fast before your ego catches up to itself. That’s where it really falls appart in the modern market and girls all eventually only accept top 1% guys.

Dave Smith

if you want to adapt this to a modern market. If everyone hit the gym, didn’t eat garbage or use drugs and somehow learned how to maintain their ego and keep it in check. Then everyone theoretically could be attractive and stay attractive 14-54 quite easily, even up to their 60’s/70s as most of attraction is being in shape and we can now dye our hair/get hair transplants etc. But reality is almost everyone is obese by 25, definitely 35/45 and you can’t make everyone a millionaire. So less than 1% of guys (and girls) are ‘hot’ at 35 which starts kicking in heavily at say 19, like I mentioned in the original post, you’re focussing on the exceptions not the 70% obese majority. I, personally get hundreds of matches a day as at 37 as I meet all criteria: height, income and am in shape. How many of the peers at my school though meet the same criteria (girls and guys included). Is only a handful.

Dave Smith

I have a marketing company focussing on ecommerce. I may study medicine down the line but I don’t want to be a psychologist for now, I couldn’t listen to someone whinge for an hour then take no action to solve the problem. Would prefer they just come in and give them a prescription. “I am depressed”. Okay, you are depressed because you don’t like your job, get a new one, get a personal trainer and change your tinder to Philippines. Next patient.” If psychology was ‘prescription’ like it was for a doctor, would be it better but how it is set up, I don’t want to do it.

Dave Smith

Girls who are older, even as young as say 17-18, are simply manufacturing the same natural look they had at 14-16 without makeup. As uncomfortable as this is for the general public a girls peak is clearly 14-16. Adding in ‘imposter syndrome’ and my own experience. What happens when girls don’t marry at this age is quite clear. By 19-23 their ego is massively conflated, but they are actually feeling the effects of when they were 14-18. From a personal point of view, you want to look for how long a girl has been attractive and ‘when’ she became attractive. If she was attractive all her teen life, by 19-20 her head will be completely in the clouds and will be delusional. If she ‘bloomed’ say 19-20, then 21-22 she will be okay still, until about 23. I’ve met girls who had always been out of shape, then at 30 got in shape so were still down to earth at 31-32. if you have a daughter, you have to determine when she becomes attractive. If it is 13-14 when she starts becoming really cute, she needs to be married 15-17 or by 18 she will move to miami or vegas or become a sugar baby and her ego/attutude will be out of control. If she blooms 19, make sure she is married by 21-22. and Same from a personal standpoint, really look into when the girl you are talking to ‘bloomed’ as it is a few years before she really ‘feels’ the status. I have also experienced this. But! If you ignore the fact that most women peak 14-18, 15-17 let’s say very typically and ignore ‘imposter syndrom’. Then you’re going to really not understand how and why they are behaving the way they are and always be perplexed why say a 21 year old ugly girl calls herself a 10 on a podcast. Is because she was at 16-17.

Dave Smith

@cezary - I don’t know if you are willingly or unconsciously virtue signalling. But studies show the opposite and would highly suggest you are just virtue signalling. They did a study showing girls to guys of various ages, with 14 being the most popular purely based on looks. Once the age was revealed almost all guys changed their answer to an older aged girl.

Dave Smith

I agree with many of your points. The age of adulthood was 15 for girls and 16 for men for the vast majority of human history and places. But atractivness perception change with age. The older you are the more you find relatively older people to be attractive versus the so called peak. They are studies to back it up, but I will use personal expirience. For me 16 yo girls are too childlike in both looks and behaviour. Also teenagers tend to have a lot of acne and otherss such growing pains. They are also not mentaly stable (too much chormons) to make good choices. I would say the best age for marriage is between 18 and 22.

Cezary Skoczek

If you try to disabuse a woman's delusion, she will resent you for it. Reality is not a red-pill administered orally, it's a suppository. Men took theirs early, while most women have theirs when they are irredeemably ruined.

Hyperion

Ex No.3 DEFINATELY had an infinity complex and her credit rating reflected that!

John McGuinness

You may ignore reality. But you may not ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. - Ayn Rand

HR

I truly do believe the social circle advice can and will work. Hell, I've tried it and it does seem to work...but this is so hard and practically unsustainable for my lifestyle. I think I lost hope. Look at all the things we have to do as men. We have to work on ourselves personally, we have to work on our careers and/or goals, nurture your current relationships and finally make time to meet new people. I could barely keep up. I have a close group of friends who are as introverted as me, and they are the ones I really like to hang out with. I also have family I like to see and make time for. So I had to work on myself, make time for my close friends and family, make time to meet new people, make time to date and make time for me personally (because otherwise I would implode). All of this of course without neglecting my job obviously. Eventually I found out that I always had to sacrifice one of them if I wanted to make time to date. My close friends, my family or my personal time. And all of that for what? For the opportunity of meeting a woman that might not even be worth my time? Honestly. I'm exhausted

zerge

Honestly, I don't have the time to write a properly written and argumented comment, but I want to leave here that I really have a lot of issues with many of things you said about the social circle strategy. That did not at all resonate with my experience, I think that social circle had lots of downsides (some of which you even framed as upsides). In these days and age, for young people, it would only work for very extroverted guys that have a lot of free time. For me personally, social circle is even worst than dating apps.

Mario Veca

I took a course from David Tian on utilizing social circles for dating. He recommends being friends with at least three attractive girls which you never make a move on. Attractive women tend to have attractive friends, but dating her close friends could hurt the social circle. You have a core circle, and you don't date in the core. You date on the periphery. I'm an American stuck in America since covid, but hopefully I'll be back in India later this year after a surgery or two. I feel my life has been on hold for 5 years. I've been set on marrying an Indian or Sri Lankan for a long time and there aren't many around here. I tried dating apps where I could go on travel mode or adjust my location by paying. Waste of money. On the other hand, I've met a lot of sincere people on a language exchange app. It isn't about finding dates, it's about making connections. Most of my Indian friends are either married or living in places I don't want to set up my base camp in. A few girls I dated previously and left on good terms with are defintely either married or cutting it close on the biological clock by now. So, I feel I'll largely be starting over aside from some acquainces I keep in touch with. Once again, they don't live where I want to live. This is where my language exhchange friends will hopefully be of use(and for more than dating). Many of the Indian girls I talk to on the app have suggested I marry an Indian girl to get permanent residency. I told them that's what I want. I bet some of them will help me out.

Kevin Martin

Double heart ❤️👍, great mindset, who doesn’t want hope

Will Lin

I agree on the social circle game in theory. But man, several social events every week sounds like an absolute nightmare to me. How do you have the energy to do that? I have a full time job, train several times a week for my sport and maybe visit my family once a week. And that is already almost too much for me. My social batteries are almost entirely drained from my job alone. Other social events every few weeks are fine, but I could not imagine going out several times a week.

Hermann

I believe this attitude also shows in their political leaning. There is a widespread believe that everyone should have everything they need and if they don´t the government should just give it to them. Which is a nice attitude and sometimes it is also reasonable. However, there is little to no understanding that ressources are actually limited. Also, there is no considerations to things like opportunity costs or what it does to the incentive structures of a society. If you object to give people free stuff, the only explanation for them is that you are mean and greedy. It is such a naive worldview, it´s hard for me to understand.

Hermann

Critique on social circle game. “ after a couple of months you should be invited to several events a week “ As a adult who works . Several events a week 😝 if they’re small events… maybe. …. Big Maybe If i were unemployed nepo-baby. Then okay

Peter

17:50 „hang out for 2-3 hours and get to know this person “ 90 minutes Dr K from goodgamerGG Says 90 minutes https://youtu.be/aWz5n_cOqrs?si=c49m-a-yfLMygRCs (17min why you cant get a 2nd date) I think that was it.

Peter

I checked out caleb hammer financial advisor thingy. 🥶 bruv! The guy has zero chill and just says it as is. Like softly softly is not part of the act. But he is not wrong… and the majority of the people on , are women Coincidence, i think not Thought i wonder why though

Peter

I know a couple in their 50s with no kids. They live in a two bedroom house, but the wife thinks they need to find a five bedroom house. If he was single, he would be looking to downsize and use the extra money to enjoy the rest of his life. Men and women really think differently. The infinity complex lives on in women throughout their whole lives.

Eric Linden

I have had similar conversations with couples who told me that paying for their kids college was a top priority. Then, when I detailed exactly what money would be needed, they complained it was too much. Well, cross that off and write it at the bottom of the list. AND THEY'RE SHOCKED!!

Lioninwinter

You're doing great work and a lot of this stuff won't come to light unless somebody points it out. I think your suggestion emphasizing social groups over dating apps or cold approach is fantastic. I am a clinical social worker and I'm following your work.

warren beane

@Dave Smith - I agree with much of your argument. However, we do live in 21st century culture, where people on the extremes will use the very young ages you give to either justify unlawful actions or demonize you. We all know if we look at history that there were many capable leaders in the past that were teenagers, and that even here in early America, many men in cities started their careers as young as 12 years old. Women are truly the delusional sex; that makes men the logical ones with common sense. Any man at 19 years old knows the law, and the law today says it is statutory rape for him to have sex with a 17 year old woman. Men have urges, but men CAN control them. A man can wait a year. Any man stupid enough to have sex with an underage woman deserves whatever the law throws at him. And the same goes when the sexes are reversed, which I believe happens a lot more than we realize. That being said, your arguments on age of attraction and attractiveness have merit, though I would bicker a bit on exact ages.

Eric Linden

"Peak" what?

beret-doppelganger

There's a scene in the tv show Metalocalypse where members of the band refuse to hear the word 'death' and prefer instead to refer to it as something more positive. They settle on calling it 'hamburger time' and insist that everyone who talks to them use it as well. I dated a woman who fit a lot of the examples you give here, but what was most weird to me was that she got weirdly confrontational when I so much as alluded to death. I couldn't imagine being so unwilling to accept the reality of our own mortality, something I've thought about frequenty since I was 11. Like you say, it's not the most fun to think about things ending, but all of my most critical and /best/ decisions in life have been due to an awareness that my life will one day end — not only that, but that 'one day' could be tomorrow — and thus that there is urgency to everything. There isn't enough time to do everything you want to do, and there isn't enough time to wait till later to do the things you know you need to do. You have to do them now. If you don't; if you instead refuse to think about death and what it means to live, you look as comical and bizarrely childish as a cartoon metal band plugging their ears and yapping about 'hamburger time'.

voskresenie

Alex, dead on accurate. Women have this unbelievable ability to live in their own bubble. I used to ask my wife (now ex) all the time whether she thought we had a money-tree outback and some magic beans. Crazy. You know what I realized...you know what that married blonde is thinking in that video of yours? She's thinking I'll just get my simp to work harder and longer. She's not saying it 'cause that would kill the goose. But she's thinking it. Women are not stupid. They are evil. Your point proven.

John Moose

Hi Dave What did you do with your psychology studies? Are you a therapist now?

Alexander Grace

Also note, if you’re in here you are probably top 1% IQ too, which is not hard it’s just top 1 in 100. Think of how many stupid people you meet, so at our level of IQ it isn’t too difficult to ‘game’ the system and get girls way hotter then theoretically you deserve, but for the ‘rules’ and ‘norms’ or society it is super un-productive to have everyone going after this.

Dave Smith

My advice would be trust the instincts you had at 8 years old. If at 5-11 years old you knew you would be a world-class athlete or singer or top 0.01% IQ, then maybe hold out to 28-48 to get married. But if you’re just ‘normal’ so you will be a plumber or uber driver or division 2 soccer player and not world class then then just get married at 15-18. And we all know it at that age. By about 15-25 delusion may have crept up as everyone tells you you will do better than you really will, but accepting the reality, in my opinion, will make you appreciate it and be happier. As an example, I was a competitive swimmer and by 10-11 I knew I would never be olympic level, but I did have a top 1% IQ so just focussed on studies from then on and stopped swimming. But, I was not 0.01% IQ which is the Vitalik’s and Elon Musk’s etc. so really I should have cashed out at 15-18 like everyone else. The tough thing is, while you might even accept this reality, doesn’t mean the girls do. So the 10 I was dating at 17-18 thought she would be an 11 at 27. She, who was a genuine model at that age, is now still single and going a little batty as she’s not even passably attractive now.

Dave Smith

Also note: I studied psychology at Harvard and these lies are even more strictly enforced just mentioning any of this would get you kicked out so don’t expect studied to back it up any time soon.

Dave Smith

The biggest lie told to women is their peak is 27 or something. A girls peak is clearly 14-18 personally I think 99% of guys too, but they have a one year difference of 15-19. Because there is 0.01% of guys who become billionaires at 44 or girls at 27 get in great shape then have 1m followers everyone focussed on them but the reality is far far harsher and no one says it out loud, nor is it allowed which I think proves we’re in a female-run society where truth is outlawed at the expense of short term feelings. It’s so easy to see, just change your tinder to 18-22 and is say 90% attractive, then change it to 25-35 and is 5% attractive with almost everyone being out of shape. Would assume women see the same trend. Hence: “where have all the good guys gone” which is just 95% of 35-45 year old guys being fat and/or bald and ‘ambition’ at that point is meaningless, 10% of them are doctors/lawyers etc. but at 15-17 they can just tell themsleves: “one day this guy will be a rapper or do something big” but at 35 that reality is impossible to pretend, at that stage he’s just an uber driver or whatever else and only 5-10% of guys have an actual ‘cool’ job, then compounding with the amount of guys with a cool job and also good looking is 1%. There was this 15 year old guy at the gym who was squatting 3 times me (at 35) and I thought he was like 24. A 15 year old is fully grown. Ian Thorpe won all his gold medals at 17. I was pulling tens at 15-18, then it was a huge drop off at 19. I saw a similar trend with girls at uni. Your metabolism stops then, you’ve had all the growth spurts then lots of people get fat. At 30 I got in shape again and it ‘came around’ but for the vast majority of people, especially girls it never ‘comes back around’ they definitely can be hot again by getting in shape, but the natural beauty stops super young far younger than they’re told. Personally, I am coming to think more and more people should just get married 14-17 for girls, 15-19 for guys as that age they’re in their natural peak. One direction was all like 16-18. I think there’s just a one year difference. Which, is the norm in bangladesh (a male-run society). So in male-run societies, girls are taught to ‘cash out’ at their peak but in female-run they are told to not cash out, because at 25-35 they will get ‘even better’ but at 28 70% of them are obese and same as guys and any guy not obese at that age dates a 20-22 year old. This is also where ‘imposter syndrome’ kicks in, where I’ve seen studies that say you feel status a few years after the fact. So when girls are in their peak 14-18 they’re not doing anything and get all this attention, then 19-24 or so (guys too but to a less extreme extent) when they get a little fat they’re ego has now caught up to them and they feel the status of when they were 14–18 which is why they call themseleves 10’s because they’re feeling the status of a few years earlier. Then say 27-29 it catches back up, where they are like: “oh, I’m not a 10”. I said all this in an instagram thread once and the simps and girls got beyond furious and were actually threatening to chemically castrate or kill me (for telling the truth) that was when I realised how absolutely female-run our society is, with everyone being forced to say reality is how women ‘wish’ it were. With 40 being the new 20, a 30 year old dating a 24 year old being a pedophile, IVF and freezing your eggs being an insurance plan ensuring you can have kids at 45, climate (weather) change being the same as global warming (one direction, being up) a mortgage being home ownership, mRNA being the same as a vaccine and whatever other lies they come up with to make themselves feel better. So this is a result of women being in charge. When women are in charge, not only is the truth made illegal, the misrepresentation becomes widespread and becomes the new adopted ‘truth’. And the truth is 99.9% of women peak 14-18, men 15-19 the one 0.01% of guys who are hot, tall and with a good job at 40 is beyond minuscule and the effect ‘gym ass maxing’ has on a girl is deceptively ineffective with a ‘fit’ 26 year old with a beautiful face being ‘on par’ or slightly lower attractiveness than a chubby 18 year old girl and no where even close to the same league as a gym-maxxed hot 18 year old that is an entirely different stratospher. And none of this is allowed to be said out loud, hence mass delusion.

Dave Smith


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