PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Why these women hate the phrase 'Not All Men'
Added 2024-12-26 12:00:03 +0000 UTC
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Dude, you said it perfectly. Men don't view themselves as a collective. That's part of why the 'but men are in charge of society, so it's men's job to fix men's issues' line is so ludicrous. Apart from the obvious, there's also the issue that the men who were and are in charge of society do not care about other men any more than women do, because they don't feel camaraderie with men solely due to their sex. There's also the issue of bell curves. Men have far wider bell curves than women do, so the left tail and right tail of men are so much more different from each other than the left/right tails of the female bell curve. That's what women don't understand. Not only do they tend to fall for the tabula rasa theory of people (which is obviously false), they also think that men are all more or less the same, just with slight variation based on their current environment. No, we're really not. I share as little in common with certain large segments of the male population as I do with a rock. That partially explains the lack of camaraderie among men, along with, obviously, testosterone and masculine competitiveness, among other things. Great video, and I'm only 1/3 done.
voskresenie
2025-01-04 02:46:05 +0000 UTC@EC alright alright 👍
Peter
2024-12-30 02:22:52 +0000 UTC@Peter - The gun control argument: One side says guns murder people; the other side says people murder people. Joseph was asking if roads cause car accidents. That’s where I got the analogy.
Eric Linden
2024-12-30 01:40:04 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden: i don’t know the gun control argument. Bring me up to speed?
Peter
2024-12-29 08:38:47 +0000 UTC@joseph Z ;) Trying to engage in a honest, charitable, good faith( even if they start off not being that) , is encouring them? I see the potential point. Its probably niaeve and overly idealistic. But I want to believe there is a path to mutual understanding and deplomancy. attempting to reach a point of repore where you might actually get to have a genuine discussion But I understand that sometimes, probably most times, they are pearls before swine
Peter
2024-12-29 08:36:24 +0000 UTC@Joseph Omega & @Peter - This is the gun control argument.
Eric Linden
2024-12-29 00:08:44 +0000 UTC@Peter - Well, women (and feminists in general) are very adept at utilizing WHATABOUTISMS as part of their arsenal of deflection strategies, and these "man versus bear" justifications for their petulant reductive attitudes and misandric jealousies. I prefer not to encourage them.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-28 21:36:13 +0000 UTC@beret-doppelganger - I don't think labels can be flawed, only perverted. I can see a more enlightened generation rebelling against their harpy progenitors and completely undermining the false narrative from within.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-28 21:17:22 +0000 UTCNo, don't try to reclaim a fundamentally flawed label. It's right in the name; it gives preference to the FEMales. It's not egalitarian.
beret-doppelganger
2024-12-28 16:31:47 +0000 UTCNot constructive or helpful, IMO
beret-doppelganger
2024-12-28 16:27:51 +0000 UTChttps://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-42
hendrik veendijk
2024-12-28 11:53:35 +0000 UTCCrime is going down in all aspects But assault from women is going up. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/42tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_42_arrests_by_sex_2012.xls
hendrik veendijk
2024-12-28 11:53:12 +0000 UTCTldr: https://therulesofcivilconversation.org/ funny but not really inline with having a genuine talk about the topic —————————— 😝 haha that’s actually made me chuckle on first read. , but i think its not 100% air tight. Some of those examples the always condition is the Only available condition. Like sugar and diabetics. Or a bear involed in grizzly attacks. But others are a bit whats the word im looking for… making fun of by introducing a seemingly real but hyper bolic example like, always a road and car smash. The conditions are artificially restrainted to make a point. A good faith approach i would see as(doesnt feel good fairh cozit seems more than make light if the argument, than genuinly argueming and counter arguing the point) . Ok in an accident i can be a car, a truck, a lorry, pedestrians, dangerous cobditions, speed.. reasons how and why this arguments is possible even if the pistillate was purly expressed. The essence of the argument. Then begin to dissect it. With valid arguments like i: sexual assault cases there are a (in my opinion) non trivial amount lesbian couple violence. And there is theoretically a chance of being jumped by a woman. No shade my dude. I understand rhat knee jerk reaction to dunk or risicule as seemingl rediculous point. I just think personally there is a better and nicer way to try argu a poibt when obw person doesnt just close off coz that was mean. I wonder if the rules of covil conversation, alude to this. https://therulesofcivilconversation.org/
Peter
2024-12-28 05:22:19 +0000 UTC@Peter - Also, not all roads, but always a road is involved in all car accidents; not all women, but always a woman who has an abortion; not all bears, but always a bear involved in a grizzly attack; not all sugar, but always sucrose involved in a diabetic attack ... remarkably juvenile arguments.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-28 04:57:08 +0000 UTCAll men? How about all black people? All Muslims? All Asians? All women?
Eric Linden
2024-12-27 14:11:04 +0000 UTCwomen : - if they didn't have cunts you would throw rocks at them. How's that for a sweeping comment
John McGuinness
2024-12-27 09:35:57 +0000 UTCA woman being a "feminist" is a disqualifier. No sane man invites such a woman into his life.
MB
2024-12-27 07:20:08 +0000 UTCNot all men but always a man 😬 The fact its kinda true is messed up. And a arguing point fr. Doesn’t increase your risk , but if it ever happens… If you avoid nen, you avoid the risk. Tiny risk, yes. But tiny risk with emense if not fatal results Something like wearing a seatbelt and cash smash… I get it, i wear a seabelt. But in that i have my answer. I wear a seatbelt, but i keep driving none the less
Peter
2024-12-27 06:28:41 +0000 UTCWeird how women defend their gender and hate on men in general on the internet. But in the workplace, women seem more likely to stab one of their fellow women in the back. Maybe it has to do with women being so inherently competitive.
Eric Linden
2024-12-27 01:33:53 +0000 UTCWhat I had "explained" to me once was essentially "We have to say all men because the number of women behaving badly is microscopic to the number of men" which of course is false and intellectually lazy. It's really because feminism is group-think and going against it means you might be outed by the divine sisterhood. AND like Alexander says (I'm paraphrasing) - it requires a constant villain or it suffocates.
John
2024-12-27 01:02:52 +0000 UTCSo saying "Not all Men" is a trigger for feminists. Their sexism is worse than I thought.
Eric Linden
2024-12-27 00:34:14 +0000 UTCAlexander is finally getting to the crux of the matter: Feminism, based as it has always been, on the concept of a "historically oppressive patriarchy", is INHERENTLY flawed, and the term needs to be be cleansed and reclaimed: https://chatgpt.com/share/67406573-8420-800a-a5bd-0465e95b81e6
Joseph Omega
2024-12-26 23:25:53 +0000 UTCIm always shocked with what women csn get away with saying. Reserve the roles and there rightly so, be hell to pay But women are „allowed“ to spew hate…..
Peter
2024-12-26 20:47:42 +0000 UTCSo intellectually expressed so insightful and so true
Ken Bloom
2024-12-26 18:40:24 +0000 UTCI urge all of you to watch this short clip “Why Are Conservative Women Happier Than Liberal Women? - Arthur Brooks” search it. The Feminists are the liberal women and Arthur Brooks, the foremost authority on happiness, identifies this group as the most unhappy.
Jonny
2024-12-26 17:38:34 +0000 UTC@Hermann - thanks for that thoughtful reply. I agree. One thing I find interesting and pretty informative is, I'm a scoutmaster and in that role I get to talk to young men all the time about being respectful of others and of themselves. As much as I can, I let them know what to expect, but most of them are already well aware. It's nothing extreme, just solid advice any young man would benefit from. Whenever women hear this they light up - "Oh! Good! You can influence these young men in a positive way!" - and this is not a surprise. Women LOVE the idea of men leading the way, and specifically in teaching and instructing other men. NOT women. NEVER women. When this happens I usually just say "both young men AND young women need to have conversations about respecting the other" - and that usually results in confusion or disappointment. So - I agree, there is much less pushing back. I put my effort and my energy into encouraging and instructing young men. I find it very rewarding. If and when feminism becomes a good faith discussion, I'll be happy to join in.
John
2024-12-26 16:27:22 +0000 UTCIn many ways, we should be relieved that feminists these days are emboldened to such a degree that they seldom make attempts at cloaking their intentions. The original feminists were much more Machiavellian about it in my view, and managed to convinced society at the time that it was about equality and justice. These days, their persistent claim of victimhood despite evidence to the contrary, and their constant denigration and demonization of men, belie their originally stated purpose and intentions. Feminism was never about equality, it was always about superiority, and has brought about nothing but societal decline and destruction in their wake: the devastation of the nuclear family, the breaking of the marriage covenant, the abysmal birthrate, the rampant promiscuity and debauchery, the epidemic of single family households and STD, malaise and depression, distrust between the sexes, the impending population collapse of Westernized countries, and so forth. Unbeknownst to them, a growing portion of men are now witting and started to push back. I just hope it's not too late for our civilization to change course before it becomes irredeemable. Look into the work of J.D. Unwin who published the results of an exhaustive study of 86 different societies over five thousand years, concerning monogamy, free sexual expression and rampant promiscuity, and their impact upon society, entitled Sex and Culture. The take-away is, Unwin discovered that civilizations where men and women practice abstinence from sexual intercourse until marriage and faithfulness within thrive, and promiscuous cultures with sexual divergence decline.
Hyperion
2024-12-26 16:20:38 +0000 UTCI don't disagree. I think it must go deeper though. I'm disheartened to think that a whole "movement" has been created over perverting what women should surely recognize as a fundamental desire for security into a disgust at the very people who are fundamentally wired to provide that security.
Lioninwinter
2024-12-26 16:08:08 +0000 UTCI'd say they never had the ability to cogently communicate their true desires and needs because they were never witting or cognizant of them in the first place. Women operate on emotional logic, and as such, they are mercurial at their best, and down-right maddening at their worst. Put another way, it means their wants and needs change depending on how they "feel" at any particular moment. When was the last time a woman communicated effectively what she truly desired or wanted?
Hyperion
2024-12-26 15:34:30 +0000 UTCBut that is a bit of the problem: No one is pushing back anymore. And I include myself in this. It's just too exhausting and seemingly pointless. If a women talks garbage, I make a mental note in my head to avoid her in the future and then I go on without saying anything. I know that's bad, because it deprives women of feedback. But truly, I don't have the energy to engage with this anymore.
Hermann
2024-12-26 15:33:35 +0000 UTC70% of parents that murder their own children are women. A devastating statistic. However, it’s actually much worse. Alex leaves out abortion. How many of you men, like me, have had your child murdered before being born by their wife? How many of you knew she was pregnant? How many planned the pregnancy after planning and having two children previously? How many saw their son on Ultrasound before he was aborted? Not many; but more than you would think. It emasculates a man like nothing else. And it buys the wife his silence. When he tries to tell people about it, the culture immediately tells them the man must have done something wrong. To any other men out there who’ve had their child aborted (murdered) by its mother, you are not alone.
Eric Linden
2024-12-26 15:29:22 +0000 UTCI used to write articles on a platform where I would get paid for reads and claps. I dd pretty well at first. I wrote a few articles on dating and relationships, which were well received by both men and women. I even had that (false) experience of women saying "you're one of the good men" - not based on meeting me, just reading my thoughts. I guess I started to feel a little too comfortable because at one point I responded to an article on how terrible all men are and despite my efforts to be fair, diplomatic and circumspect, I was immediately attacked for not agreeing 100% with the woman who wrote the article. It didn't matter how I approached the topic, I was not giving 100% agreement and endorsement, so I was BAD. What really surprised me (At first) was how women who had previously supported my writing were joining in now to attack me or at a minimum just stayed silent. I realized pretty quickly that, for one thing, very few women are comfortable being the one that stands out from the crowd. Being accepted and not excluded from the herd is more important than anything else. More important than common ground, more important than a good faith discussion around a shared problem we ostensibly are trying to solve, and Feminism is built on this truth. As a man I say - OK fine, let that go. I don't interact with it, I don't find the discussions productive, I know I'm not wanted or needed in those conversations. It's not about finding a solution, it's about perpetuating a narrative. I'm married to a great woman and I have two daughters. I treat them all with respect and dignity and love and if by some bizarre turn of events any of them were to say "yes all men" I would spend exactly zero seconds defending myself.
John
2024-12-26 15:20:26 +0000 UTC"So when you enter a space -- any space -- as a woman, you carry with yourself the threat of backstabbing, reputational disparagement, false accusations, performative victimhood, and the capacity to regard men as invisible/disposable objects of varying capacity to serve your selfish desires."
A. Modest Proposal
2024-12-26 14:22:48 +0000 UTCIs a woman's victim hood and claim of being oppressed some kind of warped desire to be protected and cared for? I don't know, but if that's true then that means feminists may have some serious mental issues. They've lost the ability to communicate their true wants and needs. Perverted them. If that's what has happened it's disturbing.
Lioninwinter
2024-12-26 13:28:15 +0000 UTC
