PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women are not attracted to the male body
Added 2024-12-14 04:00:02 +0000 UTC
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This reminds me of the quote "everything is about sex, except for sex which is about power" (featured in another one of Alexander's videos).
Arthur Eagle
2025-01-02 12:35:11 +0000 UTCIt’s only made me more uncomfortable when I go shopping. Like I’m at the store for groceries why are they all constantly trying to get my attention. My mindset is don’t try to get with me in a place that isn’t an optional social environment.
Jason
2024-12-19 01:34:49 +0000 UTCSeems like "female empowerment" has finally met its "Waterloo": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS86nW40Jq4
Joseph Omega
2024-12-18 00:10:18 +0000 UTCFor all you guys waiting so DESPERATELY to FINALLY understand the female brain ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J9ubJ-EnNE ... well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you will just have to wait some more ... 😅
Joseph Omega
2024-12-17 23:21:18 +0000 UTC😅 That's all ME, I'm afraid. 😅
Joseph Omega
2024-12-17 16:33:08 +0000 UTC@Joseph That primal quote is fantastic. Did you just come up with that or did you hear it from somewhere?
Steven
2024-12-17 15:44:24 +0000 UTC@jason i cant imagine it being THAT obvious. Alot of girls say a look is “obvious” actually unzipping my pants… is pretty obvious
Peter
2024-12-17 15:34:08 +0000 UTC@Jason - Now that you know, how would that alter your behavior towards women?
Joseph Omega
2024-12-17 07:39:16 +0000 UTC@Jason - The statistics seem consistent with the Hypergamy Rule where 90% of women pursue only the TOP 10% of men: https://chatgpt.com/share/676123a4-7464-800a-84be-e095102f1a24 Being "fit" just reduces the top percentage of men even more: Is "fit" just a measure of muscle tone, or does it also include height (6-feet +) and perceived facial attractiveness? If so, the final top percentage may be in the low single digits. Even LESS if you remove MARRIED men and men above 50. 1-percent maybe? 🤔
Joseph Omega
2024-12-17 07:27:44 +0000 UTC@Steven - I TOO would rather that be so -- but the world of female "variability" is the one we got stuck with. Men are PRIMAL with resepct to the PHYSICAL world, but women are PRIMAL with respect to the SOCIAL world.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-17 06:46:36 +0000 UTC@Steven - Yes, from the MALE point of view, FEMALE attraction IS unappealingly complex to deal with. And it is complex BECAUSE it changes with the context. Good luck when your "skinny pale baby-girl physique" goes out of style, and back to good old fashioned "tall dark bronzed and handsome". 😁
Joseph Omega
2024-12-17 06:37:29 +0000 UTC@Joseph Female attraction sounds unappealingly complex to deal with 😝. That's precisely why I'd rather have the simple foundational attraction over the infinitely shifting arbitrary attraction. There's no contest on which one's more valuable. If a woman likes you for your personality it's only because it's good for her in that particular context. If a woman likes you on a physical level that doesn't change nearly as much even if the context changes. Imo.
Steven
2024-12-17 05:57:12 +0000 UTC@Joseph I largely agree with everything you lay out here. Very insightful. Females are certainly more variable in their attraction than the male sex. I think the push back I still stand behind is something like this. I've observed many women be highly attracted to an Adonis body type and it doesn't seem reasonable to tell men that their personality can make up the difference. There may be a whole lot of attraction based on social standings and what they're "told" but the far more deeply ingrained sexual attraction comes from what they "feel". That primal, biological attraction is non negotiable. I'd much rather she be attracted to me on that physiological level than on the personality level.
Steven
2024-12-17 05:40:06 +0000 UTC@Steven - I'm not sure that Alexander meant LITERALLY that "Physical traits determine how women are attracted to men". Instead, I got the impression that his point was precisely the OPPOSITE. Said another way: "Women are attracted to the PERCEPTION of what physical traits (body, wealth, status) are IMPLIED by a man's PSYCHOLOGICAL presentation (that is, their 'personality')", and that this is largely the result of their OWN very complex and highly MUTABLE individual "moods" and heavily influenced by SOCIAL EXPECTATIONS. But I DO agree that APPLES and ORANGES should have been compared during the specific experiment comparing the stimulus and response of men and women. Though I strongly suspect the results would not have deviated by very much. And my own personal experience IS consistent with the claim of the woman who said that personality traits "LITERALLY changes your physical appearance to us", but agree with you that the statement should obviously NOT be taken at "face value" (just as NO female statement should, heavily infused as their communications are by "meta-messages"). The word "literally" is, of course, simple female hyperbole -- "effectively" would be a MUCH more accurate and logical term. But many women "effectively" live in a world of acute melodrama anyway. I believe the ONLY reason why women value any SPECIFIC interpretation of an "attractive" male body is because it is what is currently "trending" -- see the examples I described elsewhere concerning the "skinny pale desk-bound man" ideal of SOME Gen-Z's and Alphas versus the "ripped bronzed outdoor/athletic man" of earlier generations. In a facetious way of putting it: "Women tend to do AND like what they are TOLD, while men tend to do as they are FORCED and, only if UNAVOIDABLE, learn to like it." I also agree that "personality" is often MUCH more difficult to change than (gymmed) "body". Ironically, it depends to a large extent on your "personality" to begin with -- cognitive fitness and focus versus physical fitness and focus.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-17 01:33:24 +0000 UTC@Steven - Sorry, but my previous post suffered a keyboard glitch, so I had to delete it. But yes, although the same forces ARE at play in both genders, they are triggered by and applied to entirely DIFFERENT points of their mental construct. Men's attraction is fairly LINEAR, in that what they SAY they like is almost LITERALLY what turns them on, and that is LARGELY based on PHYSICAL cues, or on PSYCHOLOGICAL cues (like perceived softness and grace) strongly related to it. In contrast, women's attractions are somewhat COMPLEX and MULTI-DIRECTONAL, not to mention TIME-DEPENDENT, so that expectations of WHAT they SHOULD like (given the current fashion), the perceived IMPLICATIONS of liking it (now as well as into the next morning) and the time of month, play into the net direction that they are ultimately moved, and for how long their "prerogative" holds. Call it "Newtonian Physics" operating in "Euclidean Geometry", versus "General and Special Relativity" acting upon a multi-dimentional, quantum-mechanical, space-time manifold. 😄
Joseph Omega
2024-12-16 22:34:01 +0000 UTC@A. Modest Proposal - Wow. So sorry! A double whammy. But I've always tended to have SERIOUS questions as to the GENUINE sexual legitimacy of Lesbianism (or of even Bisexuality) in women -- female sexuality is complex, and does not occur in the same straightforward way based on PHYSICAL cues as it does for males (heterosexual OR homosexual): https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx_JFu2z-2jJWZrSyXeYTEYOzQcUivUnLO?si=3HQanQLNT-yy3Dc1 This WOULD be consistent with Alexander's premise that women are NOT attracted to a body (whether male OR female), but to the "personality" that evokes or precipiates a "lust" for it. Do you know if your ex is STILL with this BFF? Statistically (and in keeping with well established female fickleness), such relationships tend to have a high probability of failure. And then there is the curious social influences of PORNOGRAPHY on women: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxXtr9CZBECDnpQ0yaSXHRT81eUGm7Dp0v?si=GbAWLUY7rso32Z9Z A social contagion-related issue similar to the rise of the phenomenon called "Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria" among teenage girls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJnJDwRVLA
Joseph Omega
2024-12-16 21:38:27 +0000 UTCIs being fit and making 6 figures that uncommon for men?
Jason
2024-12-16 18:14:42 +0000 UTCSo I didn’t realize until recently that’s what was going on, my default instinct is they’re just being nice. Thinking about my interactions more clearly and having a better understanding of cues/signals there are a lot of women who flirt with me and I just never caught on. I’ve been told “she could push you down, jump on top of you and you still wouldn’t pick up on the signals”
Jason
2024-12-16 15:14:50 +0000 UTCI didn’t even know I was handsome until I talked with some guys I know and they all more or less said the same thing “women don’t do that to me” I wouldn’t define myself as anything because well being that I just assumed I would be ignored I never paid attention to any of them.
Jason
2024-12-16 15:11:16 +0000 UTC@Peter - I guess there will ALWAYS be perverters of the normal and natural ideals of masculinity and femininity -- those with "toxic maleness" or "toxic femaleness" (see the recent thread I initiated on the topic under this video).
Joseph Omega
2024-12-16 14:05:59 +0000 UTCWhat do you guys think about this short discussion I recently had with ChatGPT on the topic of "Toxicity"? https://chatgpt.com/share/675f930c-f11c-800a-a24c-85a68b3f90f9 Here was my original prompt: "I speculate that 'Masculinity' is IDEALIZED 'maleness', and 'Femininity' is IDEALIZED 'femaleness'. As such, there could NEVER, by definition, be such things as 'Toxic Masculinity' or 'Toxic Femininity'. However 'toxic maleness' and 'toxic femaleness' are perfectly valid concepts. What would you understand by what I'm saying?" Here is the final summary conclusion: "Your distinction between idealized masculinity/femininity and real-world maleness/femaleness provides a logically consistent framework for understanding gender dynamics. This perspective avoids conflating archetypal ideals with toxic behaviors, offering a constructive path to critique harmful expressions of gender without undermining aspirational qualities."
Joseph Omega
2024-12-16 02:45:56 +0000 UTC@A. Modest Proposal & @Robert Lindhé & @Eric Linden - Well, each of us seem to be agreeing on one basic fundamental point: Be AUTHENTIC, with the very FIRST step being to "look deeply within oneself" to identify and isolate the aspects of the "personality" we most admire and wish to "attract" into existence (to bring into reality to be our CORE). Any differences appear to be in the HOW and the WHY, and may well simply reflect our personal experiences and hence our priorities and emphases -- like Alexander, I prefer to more call women to ACCOUNT, to better reflect upon and take responsibility for their own personal decisions and priorities rather than just again accept their Feminist-influenced bizarre narratives of "responsibility-free agency" as "part of the game". At the same time, I DO acknowledge that, as males, our innate sense of "problem-solving" can and SHOULD be used to "manifest" our desires into reality ... but ORGANICALLY and in such a way that appears "authentic" -- remembering that women's "bullsh*t detectors" ARE evolutionarily well tuned to a VERY HIGH level of sensitivity: "THINKING game" is not enough without "BEING game" (if that is who you TRULY are or TRULY want to be). I personally have LITTLE interest in having a long-term relationship with anyone to whom this easily works on, but to each one's own. Still, keeping in mind that BOTH genders respond to their OWN unique mating "cues" with emotional responses of their own is useful to remember, as authenticity necessarily consists of a seamless BLEND of "personality" AND its "outward manifestation", but ONLY to the extent that the latter is MUTABLE to the exigencies of the former -- I can't simply IDENTIFY as a "ripped 6-foot-4 millionaire" while being a disabled 3-foot tall wheel-chair bound Ikea "associate".
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 22:04:38 +0000 UTC2 women in their mid 40s: I’ve told a female coworker before about how I saw an extremely fit husband that looked like Tarzan (at work). She joked about finding a way to see him. At extremes, women like it. ————The other woman told me she experienced a daddy dom baby girl dynamic for the first time and really enjoyed it. She said the guy wasn’t a model at all, but she would fantasize about him when masturbating and she started liking porn that catered to that fantasy/kink.
Mack T
2024-12-15 18:46:44 +0000 UTC@joseph I guess it truely depends on the situation But have a partner so thoughtless (at best)as to disrespect you to your face, ignore your feelings, make you look like a cuck to the guy she is flirting with.. and other people too It is a situation to take note of. When people show you who they are. Ignore that at your own risk
Peter
2024-12-15 14:37:39 +0000 UTCThis physical/emotional dichotomy is a reductive distortion. Men see (fertility cues) with their eyes and get hit with emotions (instant change in subjective mental state and motivation); women "see" (evaluation of a man's status and power) and do the same.
A. Modest Proposal
2024-12-15 14:00:45 +0000 UTC17 year marriage ended when her gay BFF seduced her. We spent almost a year trying to "figure our what happened" and repair. Or at least I thought I was; in reality I was just going through grief/being strung along by a monkey-branching sexual chameleon. So yeah, I know.
A. Modest Proposal
2024-12-15 13:53:43 +0000 UTCI think women ARE attracted to the male body. Yes the averages are naturally skewed and modern hypergamy wildly exaserbates this but at a fundamental biological level the same forces are at play. Women are attracted to masculinity in physical form just as much as men are attracted to femininity in physical form. We just have a context in which neither side can accurately percieve (or manifest) an attractive body.
Steven
2024-12-15 13:25:15 +0000 UTCA few inconsistencies here. "women aren't attracted to the male body" but you just showed that physical traits determine how women are attracted to men? Chiver's conclusions are inaccurate. It compared "straight" men to "self proclaimed sexual orientation" women and it compared the stimulus of an "exercising" woman to a "strolling" man. Why not compare straight to straight and exercising to exercising?? This random chick saying that personality traits "litterally changes your physical appearance to us" is not to be taken at face value. You can't infer that "what makes his physical form desirable is his personality". Any trait will influence perception but not to this extent. I would say that the feeling of being adored for your body is distinct from the feeling of being adored for your personality. Being adored for one's body is seen as more inherent these days. That's why women value it so closely and why men desire it so much (obligatory male body dysmorphia on the rise warning). I disagree with the assertion that personality is easier to change than body but that's a whole nother topic.
Steven
2024-12-15 13:23:06 +0000 UTC@Robert Lindhé - You’re half right. I agree that you shouldn’t try to be what you are not. I disagree about trying to become what you want to attract. Nobody really wants a carbon copy of themselves. Most guys aren’t in an identity crisis; they know themselves pretty well. And most of us have goals. We are problem solvers. Figuring out the opposite sex is the problem we are solving here.
Eric Linden
2024-12-15 09:49:57 +0000 UTCNot sure I can tell a percentage that is a cutoff point for me, but I know that the part about becoming more attractive with the connection you build is true. So I would maybe say that I have to at least see potential for that to happen
Eshkar freedman
2024-12-15 07:51:32 +0000 UTCThanks! I haven't read any of these studied in full so I can't relly comment on the quality of the data and the methods, but to me it largely makes sense that men are attracted to more women than vice versa. It wouldn't make sense otherwise considering women are much more limited in the ability to go for a quantity over quality strategy with their offsprings.
Eshkar freedman
2024-12-15 07:50:01 +0000 UTC@Eshkar freedman - Congratulations! You sound happy! So, do you agree with the skewed distribution of female tastes compared with the male curve? If so, what do you think of the discrepancy? Where would an "average looking guy" be on your curve?
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 07:29:24 +0000 UTC@Robert Lindhé - Alas, we may well be saying the same thing: Be yourself, and if you want to be someone else, change. But for optimum results, be authentic, and hence effortless. And if you're a natural "gamer" or "gym-er", then your best bet are those who respond to such things. It's just that I think Alexander is evolving his OWN "personality".
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 07:19:32 +0000 UTCOf course he was in that role - a typical playboy. However, there’s more to working on oneself than the gym and hanging on the beach. Being presentable, giving a pleasant olfactory experience. ”Whole and clean”, as we say in Sweden. Trim the beard or shave. Standing out in small and big things in the look, and being comfortable in the outfit at the same time. Also, reflect the look and feel of the woman one desire. This may be taken for granted as details everyone should know, but I think it’s not that clear to everyone. If you want to date a celebrity, look like one. If you want to date a biker lady, dress like one. But use the best clothing you have in that situation. If one isn’t comfortable in the clothing, maybe do some reflecting in who you really are. One can pine after something out of the league, but even if the opposite may attract in some way, it won’t be sustainable. And that’s one way to work on oneself too. Becoming the thing you want to attract. We like what is alike oneself, and when it’s genuine and sincere. Let the outside reflect the inside and vice verse. There’s little point going to the gym except the health, if one don’t want to meet a HQ gym girl. There is so many other physical activities one can persue, if one want to be healthy, but for Pete’s sake, chose one that feel good for oneself. 🙂
Robert Lindhé
2024-12-15 06:09:46 +0000 UTCTo answer the question, my standards for personality are high. I would go for average looking if they are amazing communicators and potential fathers. That is why it felt like I would take personality into account but didn't have that reciprocated much. I'm about to get married to an amazing guy though, my history included weight gain from SSRIs (tried everything, only reducing the dosage made me shed half my body weight in a year, it was crazy)
Eshkar freedman
2024-12-15 05:11:35 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - I think women are QUITE aware of this, if only subliminally. It may help explain their CRUSHING insecurity, cognitive dissonance and desperation to lash out at those not subject to their ironic and uniquely TERRIBLE curse. That God is MALE may just add the final straw of insult to injury. Freud may have been onto something far more deeply profound than he ever imagined. Check out these summary excerpts from my long ChatGPT discussion on the subject: "The concept of 'penis envy,' initially posited by Freud as a female child's envy of male genitalia, can be expanded into a broader psychological construct. This nuanced hypothesis proposes that initial envy of anatomical differences evolves into a complex set of feelings toward a range of gender-specific traits (such as strength, voice depth, facial features, and body hair), and further matures into societal and reactive dimensions. These feelings may contribute to what can be interpreted as misandric sentiments in the context of modern gender dynamics." "This expanded and nuanced hypothesis suggests that what begins as a simple anatomical envy in childhood could develop into a complex, multi-layered psychological and social phenomenon influencing individual behaviors and broader societal movements. By considering how early experiences of gender difference evolve into adult perceptions and societal actions, this hypothesis offers a framework for understanding the intricate interplay between personal psychology and collective social dynamics in shaping gender relations and movements." As usual, it starts out innocent enough: https://chatgpt.com/share/02ef85db-19ed-462a-99e2-f56d30f69b03
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 03:20:59 +0000 UTC@Eshkar freedman - How would you rate your level of expectations in a potential mate? Do you resonate with the well-known statistics Alexander presented at timestamp 2:27? Also, judging from your phrasing, much of the dark stage you described is now in your past. Care to share what changed for you?
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 01:52:43 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - Correct. There ARE three distinct phases at the heart of the magic in a successful long term relationship -- 1) The Pledge, 2) The Turn, and finally 3) The Prestige (with all due credit to Christopher Nolan): https://chatgpt.com/share/675e347d-9824-800a-8c4b-1eb74f12ac3f
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 01:48:12 +0000 UTCThis video reveals how women start out at the top of the mountain, and men start out at the bottom. A woman’s looks can only go downhill as she ages. A man’s personality can either improve or stay exactly the same. Men can only go up. Women can only go down.
Eric Linden
2024-12-15 01:47:35 +0000 UTC@A - Yeah. How do you know?
Eric Linden
2024-12-15 01:32:00 +0000 UTC@JO & @EF - There are differences between what men and women want in the beginning, during the honeymoon phase, and in a LTR. There’s plenty of advice online about pick-up, online dating, and the initial phase of relationships. But getting to that long-term committed relationship, and making it last, is what most of us are truly aiming for.
Eric Linden
2024-12-15 01:29:38 +0000 UTC@Robert Lindhé - True, but Sean Connery (especially as James Bond) was NOTORIOUSLY smooooth -- an effortless-seeming trait born of his innate "personality" ... "shaken, not stirred". I do not dispute that many lower-quality women may well easily respond favorably to "game" (and "gym"), but the higher quality fish require the lure of more sophisticated and NATURAL-SEEMING bait.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 01:24:03 +0000 UTCPeople seldom know what they want, especially those without experience. I personally think that game, and better oneself is part of the solution, and should not be ignored totally. Game should really be renamed to interpersonal communication knowledge, and is a part of a greater knowledge than just picking up women. This knowledge is about approaching (strangers) in general - not just as a romance scheme. With that said, of course female sexuality is emotion driven primary, and male sexuality is physical driven primary. It doesn't take away the physical factor for women's choices, nor the emotional factor for men's choices, especially in pair bonding. One will with great probability have less success in meeting someone, if one lacks the knowledge in how to communicate - i.e. "game". The thing is just not be stuck in "game" and never pair bond at all. B-A-L-A-N-C-EEEEEE, as Sean Connery so eloquently stated in the first Highlander movie. :)
Robert Lindhé
2024-12-15 01:19:38 +0000 UTC@Joseph Omega - Spot on (this week's) TOPIC, not spot on (male) logic, for she RARELY is -- a sort of delightful FEMALE logic of spontaneity, wishful thinking and contradiction. A near PERFECT insight into the unencumbered feminine mind. "Ditzy".
Joseph Omega
2024-12-15 01:07:33 +0000 UTCI think that she is just confusing or confused. If what she says is true, women would chase a lot after autistic men, confident in their special areas. Autists mostly lack a lot of eye contact, and will probably not approach - especially not a stranger. And in the end, she states that she won't approach these men, so I mean, she's just rambling nonsense logically, that won't help anyone. What she's stating is just an oxymoron.
Robert Lindhé
2024-12-15 00:59:49 +0000 UTC@Peter - "Exposing potential cheaters" sounds a little harsh though -- I contend that many if not MOST interactions between men and women are "flirtatious" to SOME extent. After all, we ARE a dimorphic species, with men and women evolutionarily designed to adopt gendered roles relative to each other, often seeking and receiving validation from the opposite sex with little or no ulterior motive.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 22:53:38 +0000 UTC@Jason - I can imagine worse hells. Would you describe yourself as a "Chad"?
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 21:34:18 +0000 UTCAs a soon to be 55 year old man, I appreciate substance and a personality and the physical as a whole, more than just a physical appearance. Not only have I discovered this from my severe ED and multi illness status, I also need my mind more, to feel attraction to a woman, than when I was younger. I always had a non-awareness to my own looks, I still do, but when I look back on old photos, I can really appreciate how much of a catch I was in my teens and my 20's. Especially in my teens, women often approached me - especially since I was extremely natural fit from ballet dancing, and as a very physical active person. Sadly, I never got the attraction cues, due to my autistic traits, I never understood how lucky I really was back then. Most of the time, opportunities passed me by, and could be understood first under dismantling the situations with my friends, but mostly this happened years after the situation took place. I was even dragged into the women's changing room by three gorgeous females - former elementary school classmates - in my late teens, by the leading woman in that triad, just because she was curious of the rest of me, seeing me j*ck off, despite her having a boyfriend. I was a bit well hung too, and I didn't get the opportunity despite she explicitly told that she would chose me, if she hadn't a boyfriend. If I had taken the opportunity, to go further sexually in that moment, I bet she hadn't made any protest there and then - but even so - my masculine traits in a psychological manner was not present, and similar now to me clear situations and experiences just passed by. I could have a long rant as an explanation, why my masculine traits just were not there, but the main thing is - no matter how you look as a man, one do not win the price if you don't understand the interpersonal dynamics - what many call ”game” in sexual attraction.
Robert Lindhé
2024-12-14 21:14:25 +0000 UTCProbably true for sexual advances, but at least in my experiences did not change anything when it comes to advances towards a committed relationship
Eshkar freedman
2024-12-14 21:04:24 +0000 UTC@Well shit. - But isn't "beyond how you treated them" ALSO part of your "personality"? I'm not advocating for it, but the REASON why "game" (OR "gym") works is because it affects how you are "perceived". The most NATURAL way to achieve "game" is via a change in "attitude", otherwise known as "personality" -- it is a SIDE-EFFECT. It is just that a GENUINE change in personality in this direction is EXCEEDINGLY difficult. Sounds a bit trite to say it, but I like to paraphrase the popular adage: "It's NOT the SIZE of your bank account that matters, but HOW you use it." Still, I agree with you: Especially with online dating apps, you "don't get a second chance to make a first impression". In person, at least you get this "second chance" to "get your foot in the door". But more importantly, if your first encounter IS in person, you DO get the FIRST chance as well. Johnny probably had more class than to get too deeply into this SPECIFIC issue with him but, although this guy is certainly no ADONIS, you can be ABSOLUTELY ASSURED that his "personality" MORE than compensated for his face and physique in terms of female seduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIYtKR24LQs
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 20:07:40 +0000 UTC@A. Modest Proposal - OK, how do you know? 😄
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 19:34:12 +0000 UTC@Eshkar freedman - This is not an ABSOLUTE rule -- Alexander just happened to deemphasize that, even failing the rather ASTOUNDING raw impact of modern makeup and other physical "enhancements", there are TWO caveats worth noting: 1) Men (like women) are largely influenced by "perceptions" often over "realities", so that a woman's "feminine persona" (including voice and mannerisms) can, and and often DO, augment her overall presentational effect, and 2) Men often are QUITE capable of being DEEPLY affected simply by a woman's HONEST ATTEMPTS to please him (and him alone) -- sort of a "makeup multiplier" effect -- you may have noticed that men frequently respond QUITE profoundly to (especially TARGETED) sexual flattery ... after all, is this not one of the very subtexts of this week's video?
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 19:31:12 +0000 UTCAlexander's philosophy is evolving SOOO rapidly away from its early naive days of a focus on "game" and "gym". It never made much logical and evolutionary sense when he and others (including women) kept going on and on about how men should physically "work on themselves", often prioritized over what he now calls "personality". We ALL know that sexually, men are HEAVILY influenced by PHYSCIAL cues while women are by EMOTIONAL cues yet, for SOME reason, "Western" culture (including its MALES) has seemingly bought into the FEMALE obsession with their OWN physical appearance and the physical appearance of their surroundings. It seems to me that Feminism, in its never-ending pursuit to valorize male behavior (including our evolutionary fixation with neotenous beauty and youthfulness), has morphed their own obsession with preening to enforce the "standard" for ALL attractiveness (males AND females alike) to be based on physical appearance -- and desperate and otherwise clueless men have BELIEVED them, thinking that such-and-such a man is "hot" and such-and-such a man is "not", as if there was some one solitary absolute time and culturally independent standard, independent of the "fashion of the day". I've heard women even on this very forum SWEAR that "tall skinny pale men" are HOT to ALL women, everywhere and everywhen, knowing FULL WELL that just a short while ago, "tall dark and handsome" as well as "grizzled muscular bronzed men" were the ideal (they were called "beef cake" for a reason, after all). In essence, it is women's PERCEPTIONS that is important and has remained the constant throughout, and if the CURRENT perception is that "tall skinny pale men" are highly valued (for whatever strange reason), then THAT is what will be considered "hot". It is BECAUSE women are "emotion-based" that they are susceptible to the "social contagions" that determine their "flavor of the week". We all KNOW this, but for some reason, never seem to associate it with an explanation of women's tastes. This is perhaps one of THE most important pieces that Alexander has so far found to assemble his ongoing puzzle of the female mind. Bravo! 👍👍👍
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 19:10:39 +0000 UTCNow imagine being a bottom 20% woman in terms of looks. No one wants your body AND it feels impossible to attract anyone with personality. Was me a few years ago, it really sucked
Eshkar freedman
2024-12-14 16:56:16 +0000 UTC@j i Imagine that being awkward But thankyou for your service in exposing potential cheaters The flirty coupled up women. If they got caught and you don’t enage in the cheating…. In a way justice is dispensed
Peter
2024-12-14 15:54:11 +0000 UTCThere are serious errors in this video but to focus on the most glaring one: yes women's experience of physical attraction is as described but that INCREASES the risk of infidelity. There are literally twice as many bodies on the planet that can provoke their attraction. Women can and will jump the fence when someone of comparable or better physical attractiveness of EITHER gender successfully seduces their willing minds. Ask me how I know.
A. Modest Proposal
2024-12-14 14:48:15 +0000 UTCAnd a man being fit needn't do it to make more women take furtive glances (which they will). It's a self-esteem cheat code. And for many of us it may feel as out of reach as earning six figures but the difference is, it's entirely a battle with yourself to achieve it, unlike other people's decisions about exchanging what you have to offer for their money.
A. Modest Proposal
2024-12-14 14:36:22 +0000 UTCWhen you're ripped women do treat you differently, you don't even get your foot in the door otherwise. It's also true that when a woman sees a man either on a path to money/fame or having attained it already their "attraction" suddenly changes. Being appreciated for your fitness is something you can change, relatively easily, earning 6 figures a year isn't anywhere near as easy. Most women I've dated never really cared about my personality beyond how I treated them and what they stood to gain from it. Women also put all their effort into physical looks specifically to manipulate men, a man being successful typically doesn't do it to get women.
Well shit.
2024-12-14 13:56:44 +0000 UTCMany men go to their grave not knowing how physically attractive they actually are/were. Women won’t tell you the truth; and honestly, after they’ve seen you in person, they are incapable of separating the physical looks and personality again.
Eric Linden
2024-12-14 13:39:39 +0000 UTCI’ve recently learned that I’m apparently considered “handsome” by a vast majority of people. As I’ve been working out I’ve found that lots of women turn their heads and stare or constantly give me looks. I’m not sure what to do because I don’t consider myself “handsome”. I also don’t know what to do when married women hit on me… Some guys don’t like me talking to their wives or girlfriends and that makes me feel super anxious.
J
2024-12-14 11:32:55 +0000 UTCAlexander when you said the part about your relationship style is sharing insecurities it was pretty obvious that it makes you nervous to even suggest that and there was slight disbelief. Logically speaking that makes sense to not want to share them. I often find that sharing an insecurity end up damaging the relationship so I don’t share my real insecurities rather I share ones that are nonsensical and made up. Obviously not saying that what’s best, it’s just what I do.
J
2024-12-14 11:28:52 +0000 UTC@Peter - I posit that the ONLY reason the guy at timestamp 1:32 was drooled over was, not DIRECTLY related to his physical appearance, but to the PERCEPTION that this SPECIFIC appearance is IMMEDIATELY associated (in modern "Western" culture) with certain "personality" traits, like confidence, ambition and success. And it is the PERCEPTION that is being drooled over. What if it was discovered that he was only 3 feet tall? Do you think the drolling would suddenly end? Do you remember that diminutive but charismatic character from Game of Thrones, Tyrion Lannister?
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 09:07:33 +0000 UTC@Hyperion - Good luck with THAT! 😄
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 08:56:00 +0000 UTC@Eric Linden - His "personality" doesn't HAVE to change, though unfortunately it frequently does. SOME men DO manage to retain their "fighting spirit" right up to very end of any infirmity or setback -- in such cases their women find little incentive to leave their side.
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 08:50:42 +0000 UTCKeira is ON SPOT this week (in her ditzy, rambling way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuHJvdyJ8Co
Joseph Omega
2024-12-14 07:33:57 +0000 UTCIn response to that crass woman's assertion in the clip at the beginning of the video: for the sake of equality -- something women demanded vociferously -- a commensurate standard should apply to women from men. E.g. cup-size, waist-size, hip-size, body-fat percentage, and finally, presence of a hymen. Based on these metrics, that crass woman in the clip would not fair well at all, and should therefore remain silent for the rest of her life.
Hyperion
2024-12-14 06:57:08 +0000 UTC09:51 It must be a special pleasure to be instantly wanted for ones Looks. To be hot. I be that guy , guys look at and know intuitively . If he makes a move on my gf im doomed But all things considered, my rational brain tells me. The ability to glow up as a person. ie, i get more attractive . Ability to improove my attractiveness . Thats a privilege But as a female your looks continuously goes down. And time is a harsh mistress Hmm
Peter
2024-12-14 04:57:41 +0000 UTCWomen can suddenly lose attraction to their man. It happens when he loses his job, becomes ill, or loses self confidence for some other reason. Basically the thing that attracts her - his personality - changes, and suddenly she wants a divorce from the relationship.
Eric Linden
2024-12-14 04:47:13 +0000 UTC
