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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women don't feel empathy for men. Why is no one talking about this?

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women don't feel empathy for men. Why is no one talking about this?

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Just wanted to share a clip. “Is he happy?” Entitlement and condescension on display. And it’s pervasive. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/9iueYJfhv6w

GomerKyle

There's some research evidence to show male sports teams are much better at forming bonds between each other than female sports teams are. Men are often also good at bonding with the opposing team once the game is over in a way women aren't.

Starship

Sure, what i mean is that my worry was the video might be so structured as to illict a stong negative emotion. Unduely negative. Either way your responce is a “what about ism” . Wel what about them!? As if that somehow justifies my own behavior. And yes “they” did wrong, and gave reason to be angry. But alas. Principals, morality, a personal sense of “good” should not be relative to what the others do. Its a absolute scale that stands on its own.

Peter

@Stephen & @Hyperion - "Jordan Peterson - Why is Chaos symbolized as feminine?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viGgB44rxdU

Joseph Omega

@Peter - Though I see what your're saying, I wonder how much compassion we can observe coming from women for men -- never before did men have much desire for "rage" before they were systematically and relentlessly attacked and blamed for ALL of humankind's ills. We reap what we sow. 💁‍♂️

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - That's probably due to a sense of CHIVALRY, HONOR and DUTY -- likely evolutionarilly driven.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Unless he was referring to Sales Tax ... 😉

Joseph Omega

Sadly, I'm merely an observer :(

Hyperion

@Eric Linden - For #2 I'm actually only referring to the SENSITIVITY to accurately DETECT the NATURE of the emotion, not what underlies or caused it. Like when you know when a dog is happy or afraid -- this will determine only if it is safe to pet it ... or run from it.

Joseph Omega

@Joseph Omega - Honestly, I think they suck at all three. I’ve often thought I experienced #2 from a woman, only to discover later that she didn’t really understand what I was going through after all. I think they can experience #2 for their children or close girlfriends, but not grown men.

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - Apparently there are three types of empathy: 1. Cognitive Empathy: The ability to understand another person’s perspective or mental state. 2. Emotional Empathy: The capacity to share and feel the emotions of another person. 3. Compassionate Empathy: The desire to take action to help someone in distress after understanding their emotions or situation. Ironically, although women appear to excel at the SECOND type, they seem too often to suck at #1 and #3 (to which men often are expected by society to specialize).

Joseph Omega

@Mark Bryski - Wow. More like Leonardo DiCaprio (in "The Revenant").

Joseph Omega

@Hyperion - That's TRULY dystopian. 😟

Joseph Omega

Modern women, especially the ingenue -- if they can even be called that anymore in this day and age -- do have role models: the likes of Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, some skanky IG model, or worst of them all OF models. How far have the femmes fallen; feminine virtues are a thing of the past in the West.

Hyperion

I think the following video sums up this and the earlier topic on "sh1t testing" VERY accurately, providing a VERY credible evolution-based theory of female behavior in the process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiAVawAsZzE It took me a little while to get ChatGPT to finally consede the plausibility of the hypothesis: https://chatgpt.com/share/67524366-48cc-800a-bdc8-45101e747c0d And many may recognize the silimarities with Jordan Peterson's own philosophical views on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXS6PdpRksI

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - ChatGPT weighs in: https://chatgpt.com/share/67522a3b-f81c-800a-9bbd-106431db4cb0 I think a less ambiguous single word than the overused and much maligned "empowerment" would capture the true meaning of your third category -- maybe "complementary"?

Joseph Omega

@ Joseph Omega - For women, Instagram is there to impress others, mostly other women. With filters and AI, it is becoming more fake. And the women there are becoming less happy, less fulfilled.

Eric Linden

@Joseph Omega - I recently saw feminism divided up-not into waves or other ways we have discussed here, but into the following categories: 1) competitive – anything men can do, we can do better 2) victim – the world is screwed, and it’s all men’s fault 3) empowerment – together women and men can unite and lift ourselves by taking responsibility. Just wondering if you have a take on this.

Eric Linden

let's neg the F*** out of these H**s

Matías Fagián

@Jose Thomas & @Joseph Omega - This subject really resonates. My comment above got 920 likes and 64 replies so far on the YouTube version https://youtu.be/UyrN6AnNCQ4?si=fnaJKtA5mBbaYnQU

Eric Linden

@Joseph Omega - RG can't count.

Eric Linden

Speaking of heroes, here is a story of a man who fought off a polar bear that was attacking his wife. Too many John Wayne movies? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/polar-bear-attack-1.7399802

Mark Bryski

Most women have a hard time with empathy for men. But do they have difficulty feeling empathy for other women as well? It seems they have empathy for women who are "on their team," much like men show support for a sports team; but is it really empathy? Is it the empathy men have for them or they have for their own children?

Eric Linden

@Steven & @Brad Dunn - The cancer has not spread as much to Africa, South Asia and Latin America, from what I can tell. I wonder about the Far East, like China and South Korea though -- I get the impression they are well invested in "De Facto Feminism". Here is a long discussion I had with ChatGPT on the topic: https://chatgpt.com/share/671e959b-d71c-800a-b6d3-f1bca633e9c7

Joseph Omega

@Reliable Guy - That's actually TWO purposes, but I resonate with your meaning. 👍

Joseph Omega

Another revealing post from my favorite ditzy podcaster -- she seems to be growing up: https://youtu.be/flX1B1GGk7w?si=vABe2LaUKWNVo01a

Joseph Omega

@Hyperion - A scary idea, as one of the greatest benefits of external role models is the intrinsic HUMILITY built into such a relationship -- if your only "role model" is yourself, what mechanism is there to prevent the development of an acute and profound NARCISSISM?

Joseph Omega

Western females, for the most part, have only one purpose in society, taxation and consumption of goods. Nothing more.

Reliable Guy

@Hyperion Absolutely. The stories persist because they're symbolically accurate. Are there any that highlight the opposite of these you mention? Like a very positive myth of female nature.

Steven

Not sure what Europe is like now as it's years later. UK, USA and Australia were the worst. I have always found Asian women on average the best or Eastern European. Slovina for example was a hidden gem. I really like Spanish and Greek cultures as they are very social and value family time. They still have 3rd spaces. Spaces outside home work or coffee shops or pubs

Brad Dunn

@Brad Welcome! I've heard the same about Australian women's attitudes and am inclined to agree. Where in your travels did you find women with the best kind of attitudes?

Steven

Hi Alex. You got me. I have watched you from the start. You finally get it. I'm proud of you for having the courage to see the truth for what it is. Bit about me at 23 I moved to Europe and had a fantastic time. Iv been to 35 counties. I'm 41 now. Even back then when I was 26 when my visa ran out I wept. Why? After all my travels I noticed that the average Australian women had the worst attitude in the entire world even back then. Forward to know and it's beyond disgusting. It's pathetic. Most of them a phycopaths based on there actions. Congratulations you got me on your patron for the first time since you started. By the way other content creators are using your content now.

Brad Dunn

@Hyperion - Perhaps "love" is not the correct word to use for what those women you describe are feeling -- maybe more "desire", the complement to what a man may feel when he wants to use a woman just for sex: An equally utilitarian perspective, which could well coincide with the woman having an idealistic perception of the very same situation. The only difference being that men, being more self aware, are more likely to CONSCIOUSLY recognize the difference in those two feelings, while women can easily conflate them in her mind.

Joseph Omega

I was worried about this being more rage bait than anything else. There is definitely a discussion to be hard about the treatment of men in today’s Media landscape It’s anything but “equal “ The rest all seemed decently based What i miss in the last soree of videos. It’s all fan service and it feels divisive rather than sort of fostering understanding and compassion and concrete methodology of how to bring people together It feels more like baseline MRA activism… I don’t know exactly how to approach this topic better . Like how do you acknowledge the issues face payment while still plotting out a pot that doesn’t include one party? Just getting angry at the other party and fostering loving long-term trusting relationships… IT IS A PICKLE !!

Peter

The Greek understood female nature well, with stories of gorgons, harpies, sirens, etc. Like the mythological sirens, if you listen to a woman, she will be your undoing and guide you to your doom.

Hyperion

I think we can see how empathetic and compassionate many women are when they go on social media to say how much they hate men, that they wish that men didn't exist. Basically, making generalizations based on their own poor life choices. But are these posts flagged as hate speech? No. I agree that female on men sexism is not discussed as nearly as it should be. Most of it is dismissed as females just being emotional, when many times it goes way beyond that.

Charles Raynor II

@Eric @Steven She wants to fatten you up after she captures you and while she bleeds you of all your resources. Once you are bled dry then she monkey branches.

Michael Ahern

@Steven - It’s like she wants to fatten you up after she captures you; but after she fattens you up, she loses desire for you.

Eric Linden

The first clip is relatable to most men. Both women and children are quick to destroy a man’s accomplishments when their emotions get the best of them. A good woman will regret what she has done and feel remorse. If a man sees evidence of that(remorse and regret), he will actually feel empathy for the person who wronged him.

Eric Linden

Agreed. It's an unfortunate situation but you're right. Monkey branching is often perceived as a better strategy.

Steven

Masculine ideals abound: epic poetries, Greek mythologies, lore, fables, Arthurian legends, Star Wars, Lord of the Ring, etc. The archetypal hero and his journey resonate deeply within the masculine psyche. The assumption of responsibility, the overcoming of adversity, and the underpinning sacrifice a man must make are that which give him ultimate meaning and purpose. It is for that reason heros in these stories symbolize the masculine ideal. A man may sacrifice for a woman, but heros sacrifice for the greater good. What I find disturbing is how women mock men who admire heros. What women don't quite seem to understand is that heros are role models whose stories serve as the metaphorical map that shows the path for men to become one themselves. The lacking of feminine role models is, I suspect, in part attributed to the fact that men must become, whereas women simply just have to be, to serve their purpose.

Hyperion

I hate to point out that modern women are not in the business of nurturing a man to his potential. They wait at the finish line and shag the winner. Women don't care how much sacrifice you've made nor how much blood, sweat, and tears you've shed in order to win. They don't care how you win so long as you win. They expect that by the time you "manifest" in their life, you should be perfect, flawless, and beyond reproach. Why would they invest in a man when they can just monkey branch to a better one?

Hyperion

A weak or emotional men is but a liability to a woman. I've come to accept that most women view men from an utilitarian perspective. A woman gauges a man's value based on what he can do for her, it's for that reason women love pragmatically, whereas men love idealistically. Women cares not for men's struggles. If you want a woman's empathy or compassion, you might get it if she's in good humor, but making a habit of it will dry her nether region up like a prune. Do not seek empathy or compassion from women, that's not for men. If you must, seek advice or aid from a fellow man that you respect.

Hyperion

You'll get praise from a woman if and only if you did something that may in some way benefit her. Otherwise, women care not for men's struggles or accomplishments, much less celebrate them if they are not the beneficiary. Even when they are the beneficiary, it's ought to be. If you expect that pat on the back from women, you'll be sorely disappointed.

Hyperion

Self defeating strategy. Low quality behaviour. Definitely too common. It reveals an unfortunate lack of self esteem that the woman doesn't believe she could keep her man unless he became worse. Which may in fact be true as men generally appreciate in value and vice versa.

Steven

It might seem fucked up, but I heard somewhere that women want a high quality man. But as soon as they have secured a relationship, they would make sure he's not desirable to other women. So having him become a better man is not in their best interest in that sense. What do you think about that?

Christophe Ruef

As a woman don't you want your man to be the best he can possibly be. Wouldn't you dedicate yourself to helping him reach his potential? It's in your own best interest to do that, please be selfish and make your man better than all the others. I don't understand how this isn't the basis for most women. Naturally it might but we seem to be a long way from that.

Steven

@Steven - This seems a relatively recent phenomenon, likely borne of the era of "female empowerment" and "strong independent women" and "girl bosses".

Joseph Omega

I see no reason for males to retreat from the idea of using archetypes developed from fictional characters (whether those played by John Wayne or Tom Cruise or Keanu Reeves or Mel Gibson as Jesus Christ) -- that is, after all, the very PURPOSE of heroes: To give us relatable models to aspire to. It's just that comparable FEMALE role models are SORELY lacking -- those characters played by Scarlett Johansson and Lucy Lawless and Gal Godot are arguably largely for the "male gaze", while those like Margot Robbie and Brie Larson recently played were unrelatable "Boss B*tches". Maybe the classic non-sexualized strong FEMININE characters played by Katharine Hepburn or Keira Knightley or Kristen Stewart or Natalie Portman or Liv Tyler?

Joseph Omega

Oof, this hits hard. Sometimes I still struggle to comprehend that all these hard won accomplishments that I feel proud of won't ever really be understood by anyone, especially a woman. I think sharing a hard won battle and getting a shrug in return can really hurt. That internal feeling is pristine, why risk it on someone unworthy. Be careful who you share good news with indeed. Sucks because as a man you want to be seen for your accomplishments, like a lot. Like that's kind of really important for your self-esteem. How hard is it for a woman to take a second to empathize and celebrate their man. That's a lot easier than having to do the damn thing herself and yet I hardly ever see a woman giving their man genuine praise for his accomplishments.

Steven

@Simon - The irony: Most of the "homeless" ARE "struggling men".

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - An audience of like-minded Feminists she posted to impress? 🤔

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Short answer is probably "yes".

Joseph Omega

@Hermann - Admirable, but perhaps women should not so easily be let off the hook by way of "growing up". There are rather OBVIOUS contradictions within Feminism that women need to face, in this case, by way of the dimunition in their much vaunted "agency" -- would their movement be comnfortable admitting to being labeled the TRULY "weaker sex" to be so protected from themselves? The most recent US election suggests that there MAY be more (silent) women less satifiied with the current intellectual status quo than we have been led to believe. It's at least conceivable.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Ah, the irony. Instead, it seems preferable to just DEMAND they own up to their genetic responsibilities. Hey, one can dream, can't one? 🤷‍♂️

Joseph Omega

@Jose Thomas - Unilaterally "manning up" has a logical limit, beyond which it just becomes useless and self-defeating masochism.

Joseph Omega

@John - I don't think women have "evolved" this facility. They are just (evolutionarily) susceptable to "social contagions" sufficient to replicate the Feminist Narratives of their "Harpy Sisters" about a "Historically Oppresive Patriarchy" to forcibly exclude males from their normal propensity for general empathic responses to children and animals.

Joseph Omega

@Mack T - Classic behavior. 🤦‍♂️

Joseph Omega

@Christophe Ruef - Indeed -- there is often a VERY thin line between COURAGE and COWARDLY COMPLAINTS, between POWER and PETULANCE. Still, all problems FIRST have to be indentified PRIOR to solutions being found -- I believe this is what Alexander has done here very effectively. It is up to each of us (especially as men) to choose our own path based on the discovery. That said, holding women accountable for their behavior is neither unreasonable nor uncharitable. Again, despite appearances, they are NOT children.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - There are TWO components to "Emotional Intelligence": INTERpersonal and INTRApersonal (what I prefer to call "Socio-Emotional Intelligence" and "Self-Emotional Intelligence" respectively). Women DO appear to excel at the former. Men excel at the latter. But, the mere possessing of either does not necessarily dictate the MORALITY of the usage. A woman MAY use HER component skill negatively (as in this video's examples), but a man MAY use HIS component skill negatively (an "evil genius" is a popular trope). Like "Nuclear Energy", it all depends on the USE to which it is put.

Joseph Omega

Most of these comments are SOOO painful to read. 😢

Joseph Omega

Strength and Resourcefulness are qualities of alphas, women evolved to be attracted to. That's why men can't be openly weak. It disgusts women. In a more general sense, no one would associate with someone who can't elevate the group quality, nor help attain their goal. Emotional sensitivity does not mean caring. True. But straight up disrespect or harm must have consequences. Would this video have been produced by a man who's single, I would have said it comes from a bad place. I'll stay very critical of your content AG, for I can't let it impact the relationship with my girlfriend. Thanks for the eye-opener though. It helps saying on point and become a better man. Have a great day everyone.

Christophe Ruef

Hey that's what this channel is for, right :) This truth that what Alexander is exposing/explaining is actually a logical conclusion, when you consider what women value in men, and what attracts them. We all know that despite us hoping they will love us and want us for who we are, and despite what propaganda we encounter, it all boils down to our confidence and our ability to control our circumstances either through status, money, influence, brute force, etc. And what do they want from us? Our attention, and that they get to share in the benefits of what I just described. At no point does empathy enter the picture unless there is some sort of benefit attached. I simply assume this is true, and I don't expect any different, no matter who she is or what she says. And no matter how it sounds, I don't think less of them. I just understand it is true. When you realize this and start to operate like this is the truth, your life starts to get easier. You are able to get on with it.

John

Not exactly the same but: a woman I was close with would beg for me to stay on the phone when I needed to go. When she needed to go, she would just cut me off. Such a big contrast

Mack T

It´s one of those things that you have to learn to truly grow up. Once you accept it, it is much easier. It´s the same with other topics, like working in a corporate job or dating. We grow up with an idea how the world should be. But that is not reality, and you have to understand this at some point. The point in the video is hitting close home, because for many years I dreamt of a woman that would understand me, respect me and have genuine compassion for my struggles. I never found such a woman and that was quite painful. It´s understandable that most people don´t care much, as they have enough struggle in their own mind. That´s why it would be nice to have at least one person who deeply cares about you. I think this is what many hope to find in a wife. But the reality is, you have likely more luck finding a good friend that understands you, than a woman understanding your feelings. Weirdly enough, it seems they are just incapable of empathizing with a man. Maybe men and women are just too different to truly understand each other. In the last years, I´ve come to understand that I am truly the only person responsible for my happiness. I admit, there is a bit of dissapointment there. But on the other hand, I feel stronger and more liberated than ever before. Life is good.

Hermann

Does women experience this or Is there an equivalent issue women face?

Jose Thomas

Yh comforting someone for making them worried with your problems is a milestone every guy goes through

Jose Thomas

You are right. An example: If you find out you have cancer, deal with it yourself before sharing it with your wife or female partner. In most cases, she will demand that YOU comfort HER for what SHE is going through, when you are the one who is ill.

Eric Linden

Emotional intelligence? It doesn’t exist in most women. Vindictiveness. ruthlessness, hate, and selfishness are core female characteristics.

Eric Linden

The comment was more just a release of frustration about the whole thing. And I completely agree with only sharing struggles you have overcome. Any current struggles I share gets them worried and stressed, and I have to reassure them that I can manage on my own. It's easier to solve it yourself or share it with close friends. A lot of the times guys have to 'man up' as depressing/unfair as that sounds.

Jose Thomas

That first video is painful. I would leave her for that on the spot. Not only because of the game. But the fact, that she deliberately and purpesfully hurt the man she is supposed to love. And is laughing about it. And is filming it. And distributing it on social media. Utterly appaling behaviour.

Hermann

Here's what I have learned over my life, and in my marriage. When I have a problem, or when I need to express my emotions, or when I am needing support - I talk to a man. I also try to be that man for other men. I think that Women are either socialized or have evolved or both to feel that empathy for a man is unnatural, or that a man needing empathy is dangerous somehow. When and if I ever talk to my wife about my problems, it's only after I have formulated a solution and I'm sharing it with her. Anything else is infinitely frustrating and unproductive.

John

Honestly this video hurts to watch. This has always been something I experienced throughout my life, and I am finding it harder to sympathise with my sisters, girls around me, etc, when I hear women's issues/complaints. Its weird because I know more about women's issues than women, and my closest friends are women, i only have sisters, i have more than a dozen female cousins, and i care about them all. But the amount of dismissal or lack of care i get from girls around me on any male related issues, makes me feel dead inside. These last few years I have been talking less and less about the negative experiences in my life with the girls around me, and they are evidently nicer and friendlier, when I don't act like a burden. I miss being a kid, because that was the only time I was allowed to complain without being disliked for it. Now I feel like anything I say gets a label of 'incel' or 'misogynist', because guys who complain about their life is seen as 'Bad/weak Man'. What's everyone else's experience?

Jose Thomas

Another aspect of the first clip is the sense of achievement men have in tasks that nobody else will ever see or appreciate. His partner was the only one who knew how much time and energy he had put into it. She was the only one who knew how much it would hurt him if she deleted it. Most achievements of women are, by design, meant to be seen and appreciated by others. Men, myself included, often complete a task, experience a sense of accomplishment inside, but then never tell another soul. Is it simply because we think telling someone would be bragging, and thus ruin the internal feeling of satisfaction? Is it about integrity?

Eric Linden

Strange that the first video had at least 5 cameras at different angles, but I don’t think it was a skit. Setting up those cameras, and all the editing and skipping though scenes took lots of work. The editing was surely done to portray a particular point of view to a particular audience.

Eric Linden

Struggling men are essentially treated by women as 1 step above the homeless. You're a burden/problem no one wants to deal with, doesn't mean they won't feel sympathy for you but they're not actually going to offer you a proverbial sofa to sleep on... it doesn't make them evil, it's just the way of the world.

Simon

Man, this video made me sick to my stomach! That first king deserves so much better than that! I hope he sent her packing out of his life, back to the streets where her disgusting attitude and behavior belongs! We live in a Gynocentric world and time where women have been gifted the unfettered, unchecked freedom and authority to be the most cruel abusive unemphatic two faced psychotic monsters that they always claim men are and suffer no consequences for their attitude and actions! That woman guaranteed would have had other women and simp cuckold weak men in the comments celebrating and praising her for those actions! No wonder why MGTOW is the only sane choice in the day and age in my opinion. If you can find a woman who is respectful, empathic and compassionate, protect her with your life. But since all the good women are odds on probably already snapped up by now, Leave this trash woman to be washed out with the tide into oblivion! Your mind, body, soul and spirit don't under any circumstance deserve a woman like that!

MarkGauci85

This video ties DIRECTLY to your PREVIOUS one on "Sh1t Tests".

Joseph Omega


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