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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Men with low self esteem are easier to extract from

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Men with low self esteem are easier to extract from

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@ATH-YF - There may be more than one cult intricately intertwined here: Marxism that aims to subsume the individual welfare to the collective will ("we we we"), and Objectivism (or Libertarianism) that aims to subsume the community's welfare at the expense of individual interests ("me me me"). Although it very often certainly SEEMS "Satanic", I prefer to imagine a "Hanlon's Razor" effect -- I often like to paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke: "A sufficiently advanced ignorance is indistiguishable from evil".

Joseph Omega

Unless he has the chad physique, in that case her logic can be trashed for a quick fling..

ATH-YF

Matriarchy and the inversion of gender roles I suspect can be part of a satanic cult agenda because cutting off men from the picture is having catastrophic effect on established relations, preventing new ones to be sustainable and bringing everyone to the most self fish needs.. life goals have become about me me me & NOW and about extraction of resources at the expense of others.

ATH-YF

Couldn't be any closer to slavery and I'm convinced feminism is never about equality and destroying the patriarchy, it's about replacing it with a matriarchy and women being above men

Mikey Lavery

I find it AMAZING how similar these stories in the East mirror those in the "West": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RSra9BoO3U I postulate that, despite their WIDELY differing origins, Feminism has become a GLOBAL phenomenon: De Jure Feminism in the "West" and De Facto Feminism in the East: https://chatgpt.com/share/671e959b-d71c-800a-b6d3-f1bca633e9c7 Each the result of the drive towards "modern economic efficiencies". Unless checked, it is only a matter of time until the South "improves" their economies and follows suit. Scroll to the end of the conversation to see how so many modern "egalitarian" religions may offer as little respite from the growing existential cancer. This is an extension of the "Hope Crisis" hypothesis postulated by Malcom and Simone Collins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tauryUSa4lk

Joseph Omega

@Hermann - As a short-term fling, certainly. Ever heard of the "pool-guy trope"?

Joseph Omega

I don't see progress coming from women because having long term goals doesn't seem to be awaken in the group consciousness. (Emotional dominant behavior operate mostly on short term interests..) If anything there seems to be signs of consciousness regression because even the obvious biological clock motivating women (usually) seems to be totally ignored by the so call educated women. The delusion has gone so bad even the men in their 20's are starting to check out from dating and long term commitment. Social media propaganda have also programmed the ladies into thinking this biological factor is just an old school trend.

ATH-YF

He seems to have 2 options : - choose infinite pain by keeping the abuse trauma going - choose the finite pain by applying correction at the risk of ending the relationship if He and Her refuse to correct their own behaviors. He need to respect himself before claiming the respect from the partnership.. getting out of the martyrdom role for good.

ATH-YF

Is mostly the cause on how we treat ourselves, the lack of healthy boundary and self-respect bring abusers into our lives because we leave the weakness open to be exploited. This pattern of abuse was seeded in childhood by the traumatic system we are born into and the overwhelming ignorance of our spiritual essence by our parents.

ATH-YF

@Hyperion - But I DO admit that the word "approval" is inappropriate -- "appreciation" is MUCH better and FAR less problematic.

Joseph Omega

Fernando is a manual laborer, who mows the lawn for a living. I´m pretty sure she would never consider such a low status male..

Hermann

@Eric Linden - Both.

Joseph Omega

We're back again to the REFINEMENT of Alexander's "boat" and "island" analogy, wherein BOTH must bear a responsibility for the development of a healthy and productive relationship -- not just for the "island" to "get his shit together" or the "boat" to be a slave to blind Hypergamous impulses. Time for women to start pulling their weight -- though neotenous, they are NOT children.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - I tend to prefer a different model of relating, with BOTH "adoring" each other (in a semantical sense), but in entirely DIFFERENT yet COMPLEMENTARY ways - 1) As AGENCY: The man as Lord (executor), and the woman as Lady (purpose). 2) As TOKENS: The man as Amulet (power), and the woman as Talisman (fortune) 3) As GRAVITY: The man as the source of Benevolence, and the woman as the focus of Cherishing 4) As VECTORS: The man as the Magnitude, and the woman as the Direction I asked ChatGPT to help elaborate: https://chatgpt.com/share/6729d0a8-39a0-800a-854a-98473da3cc32 It's a work in progress.

Joseph Omega

When a woman strengthens her man, she becomes more attracted to him. When she weakens her man, she becomes repulsed by him.

Eric Linden

@Joseph Omega- Pedestalization in the beginning of the honeymoon phase can be infatuation, but it doesn’t last long. The ending state should be the man as the adored, and the woman as the adorer. That can be with him on a very short pedestal or simply standing slightly taller than her. It is a down-to-earth way of relating, the man masculine and the woman feminine.

Eric Linden

Why isn't she with Fernando?

Steven

@JO Truth hath no temperature. Reality however, can be one cold bitch. Pun intended.

Hyperion

@Eric Linden - But is pedestalization really a sustainable goal long term though? Seems unstable, and one is hurt a LOT more when one falls from a greater height. I personally feel more comfortable at more realistic, down-to-earth levels of relating. I guess I hate "high horses" whether one climbs up, or is placed up. Still, do you draw a distinction between pedestalization and plain infatuation? Seems like it may be difficult to differentiate.

Joseph Omega

True or false: A woman becomes a reflection of how a man is treating her. True or false: A man becomes a reflection of how a woman is treating him.

Eric Linden

@JO - I've been put on a pedestal several times. I fell off as the honeymoon phase was ending. The instinctive reaction is to seek approval, get defensive, and become a simp. That is a big mistake. That is where the relationship falls apart, things start to spiral, and situations like the first few clips in the video start to happen. Men become weak, women treat them like shit and try to extract all they can. Instead, stay strong, keep your masculinity, and be prepared to walk away. Then there's a good chance she'll put you back on that pedestal again. But never as high as the beginning of the honeymoon phase.

Eric Linden

@Hyperion - That's certainly another way of putting it! 😂

Joseph Omega

@Hyperion - Oooo, that's COLD -- TRUE, but cold. 😅

Joseph Omega

If you can, get him to join either Nicola or Tomer's Heroes Circle. Mine are full at the moment but he really needs a coalition of impartial men to weigh in on this situation and support him through the process

Alexander Grace

I'd go a step beyond and simply say: "Don't seek the approval of women".

Hyperion

Shame, when applied to women, is misogyny and oppression. Shame, when applied to men, is necessary. Rule 5 of feminists doctrine.

Hyperion

@Eric Linden - I personally would prefer to say: "Don't seek the approval of women who are not prepared to seek (or CAPABLE of seeking) YOUR approval".

Joseph Omega

She's not yours, it's just your turn. Modern women's devotion to a man exceeds not the duration of a squirrel's attention.

Hyperion

Modern day dating is like robbing Peter to pay Pauline, and Pauline then disses Peter for being robbed. I've come to the sad conclusion that women would rather scorch the earth than take any accountability.

Hyperion

@Maria Maalouf - Glad to help. There are some very useful woman-centered resources that you can tap into to assist in your communication. This channel is one of my favorites, and this tearful admission in particular, seems one of the most compelling for your particular circumstance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPkAuuJADBc

Joseph Omega

That’s a good idea, I’ll bring it up to him and see if he’s okay with me talking to her. Thank you!

Maria Maalouf

You can lead a horse to water…

RhodiumMaiden

💯

RhodiumMaiden

@Eric Linden - I don't get the impression that modern women EVER put men on a pedestal. At the closest, he may be considered a "prize" (if he is considered a Chad -- one of the "top 5%"). But at most other times, women just get swept up by the intoxication of "falling IN love" during this "honeymoon phase" (acting out their expected "Romance Novel" fantasies) and, as it wanes, they steadily fall OUT of love, and THAT is when the danger occurs, when men in their desperation and desire to maintain and prolong the attention and appreciation, are tempted to "bend the knee" instead of "standing tall". The "honeymoon phase" should logically be used by men to build up their confidence and spiritual resources to weather the upcoming storm of their mate's "withdrawal symptoms", coming down from love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quDU58aQ5rU

Joseph Omega

The girl at 2:15 used the word "wog" -- I've heard it before on older British TV shows. I had to look it up. I knew it was a derogatory racial slur (short for "golliwog", I'm assuming?) but, until now, never understood what it meant exactly: https://chatgpt.com/share/67292060-161c-800a-bd80-3ab9ac2db88d The last part of the explanation is particularly interesting, as I suspect this was the context in which she was using it: "In Australia, it initially targeted immigrants from Southern Europe, such as Greeks and Italians, and later, people of Middle Eastern descent ... Over time, particularly in Australia, some individuals and communities have reclaimed the term, using it as an identifier with a sense of pride and cultural belonging, especially in comedic and social contexts." So, akin to the use by African Americans of the "N-word"?

Joseph Omega

@Maria Maalouf - As a woman yourself, have you tried talking or explaining the situation and dynamics to HER?

Joseph Omega

I have come to the same conclusion about accountability, aka the bane of modern women, being the answer. You may think I am some sort of misogynist, but I really love women and love families. All the best outcomes are available to all parties of the nuclear family when the marriage is strong and accountability along with self discipline reign. One of the worst things we did was to remove shame for things that are shameful. The carnage was not fully realized back then, but we all see it now.

Ryan Carlow

Really enjoy your insight. Keep up the great work!

James McDowell

Some of Alexander’s descriptions of codependent women’s behavior is very similar to that of my brother’s fiancé. She has repeatedly threatened to leave him and he continues to run after her. He agrees that her behavior is toxic but blames himself for her reactions. I’ve heard them argue, and it is impossible to reason with her. If anything bad happens, it is his fault. If they are both late to an event, it is his fault. If a hike takes longer than expected, it is his fault… I want the best for him, and it breaks my heart to see this dynamic in his love life. I have done all I can to help him realize there is nothing wrong with him and he does not deserve any of this, that her behavior is uncalled for and she is mistreating him to an insane degree. He insists that he must not give up on the relationship because it would be like giving up on overcoming deeper challenges he is grappling with. I had him sign up for a consultation. He is on the waitlist right now. Alexander, if you are reading this, I know that you will be able to help him better than I can. I just hope he is able to find support from other fellow men, and that he will be more successful in his love life. If anyone has any suggestions for what I can do else to help him, please let me know. I don’t mean to make his situation public on the internet. I’m assuming it is safe to share here on patreon. Thanks everyone.

Maria Maalouf

In the beginning, women put men up on a pedestal. As the honeymoon phase goes on, that pedestal gets lower and lower, until you step off or get knocked off. That is the time you need to stand tall. Too many men bend the knee instead. The adored becomes the adorer and vice versa.

Eric Linden

If men stopped seeking the approval of women, they would be free of their clutches, and women would no longer have power over them. Don’t submit yourself to seeking the approval of women.

Eric Linden


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