PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women enjoy rejecting men
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@RhodiumMaiden - Fascinating! You MUST know that your viewpoints are generally viewed QUITE poorly by the VAST majority of humanity, but I DO admire and respect your incredible candor. Would you be comfortable sharing with me WHEN and under WHAT conditions you come to be as "racially aware" as you now are? Was there any defining experience or circumstance that led you along this path? Was it before, during or after marriage to your late mixed-race husband?
Do you rate male and female attractiveness on the very SAME scale? Seeing as one is decidedly NEOTENOUS and the other decidedly NOT, this seems a little strange to me.
Interesting. Has no one ever remarked at your Eastern European or Central Asian features before? It seems so distinctive to me. Now that you mention "gypsies" (granted I have little experience of their particular phonotypic characteristics, short of "Esmeralda" in the Disney movie š), you bear a resemblance to what I would have previously envisioned -- somewhat exotic, even "Native American", were it not for the notably pale complexion. Maybe one of those recessive genes you hold in danger of being lost?
Co-parenting DOES sound a bit expensive, and seems to introduce numerous unpredictabilities, not the least of which would be the psycho-social impact on your child. Considering your expressed eugenic sensitivities, would your preference be AGAINST homosexual offspring?
As I said, the conversations with ChatGPT I share are just to illustrate my own train of thought and philosophies, and not meant to suggest that I trust its responses "as gospel".
PS. Again, I only just discovered your reply here just by accident. I've said it a few times, but do you understand what you need to do within Patreon to trigger a notification getting sent to me and anyone else you wish to notify of a new comment?
Joseph Omega
2024-12-02 08:42:56 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - That's an AWFULLY specific set of criteria. Are the "Requirements for partner" items DEAL-BREAKER criteria?
If you had to guage, what percentage of the adult male populatin of those countries that you've lived satisfy these criteria? A rough idea would be sufficient, and it may assist you to attach a percentage (or percentage range) to each item invidually -- this is the most helpful strategy.
PS. Again, remember that to ensure that I get notification of your replies, you must EXPLICITLY click the š¤ button to the "on" postion -- if you previously clicked it, you must unclick then re-click it "on" again to send a notification. Only by sheer LUCK did I happen to find your last message on this thread.
Joseph Omega
2024-11-30 05:39:44 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Sorry. By "looks like" I meant "operates". Doesn't one esthetic get in the way of the other in your mind?
Joseph Omega
2024-11-30 03:47:12 +0000 UTC
Maybe she was just the smartest & most observant of the girls and she saw that he had bundles of cash that the other girls didnāt notice š Though I have to admit she did SEEM like a genuinely nice girl. But impossible to tell from a short video clip.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-26 22:31:42 +0000 UTC
@JO Oh, of course that is obvious. The way I view female versus male attractiveness is as 2 overlapping normal distributions, with female distribution being narrower & shifted to the right (more attractive on average) and the male distribution being broader and flatter. So kind of like the IQ distributions except male and female are switched in this case. I hope that makes sense.
Yes, I have a very strong racial preference for men of (ideally NW) European descent (European is my definition of white - which excludes gypsies & Arabs etc but not Slavs) & am very much a eugenicist. I could possibly consider a half Northeast Asian half north Northwest European, but I have never met one, AFAIK, so I do not know if I would even be attracted to them. My late husband was either 1/8 or 1/16 Native American though I never would have guessed had I not known; he was 50% German, WASP & Slavic otherwise - so obviously a little admixture is fine. Even before I was so racially aware, I never found non-white men remotely attractive and Iāve encountered plenty of them. I am also strongly opposed to race mixing. I would only do it if I had literally no other option & in that case, I would only consider a Northeast Asian. Iād rather be a single mother than marry a man I find unattractive. I think it would be better for the kids too.
Iām 100% NW European, confirmed both by genealogy and DNA testing, but when I had dark hair, I was sometimes suspected of being Asian or part Asian, though only ever by Americans (Europeans are aware that slender white women exist; I was also accused of being anorexic in the US which has never occurred here). I have childlike facial features (I have to wear childrenās classes because adult ones fall off my face) and very delicate bones, but I donāt think I look Asian, just somewhat unusual. I think Iām generally perceived as NW European (especially with my freckles and light hair). If you really want, I can send you photos.
Co-parenting is certainly a penultimate resort, but I think it would still be better than single motherhood. I thrive on challenges and am very well off. And sperm donation is NOT expensive. Iād only use a known donor, likely one of my friends. Ideally a person who wanted to coparent with me, but was incompatible as a full spouse. Iād consider a gay couple or single gay man also.
Your ChatGPT link gave me a 404 but just so you know, I try to avoid using AI except for voice to text. I believe in a cautious approach to most technological adoption/innovation. I really dislike the idea of AI art and music especially, but I will support its use when it starts being used to successfully promote wholesome pro-white family values. Iām so sick of woke, āinclusiveā media.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-26 21:42:17 +0000 UTC
@JO I had never heard of the Collinses until you introduced me to them actually! I adore their eccentricity.
Oh no, those things are all still important. Theyāre just a lot less important. They are effectively unimportant provided that they meet my minimum standards. If they exceed them, they are a wonderful bonus I feel lucky to have, because the traits that I value most are so rare. But I am very picky about noses as I have mentioned. Also I ONLY like very pale, pink toned white skin. And I must like a manās voice, mannerisms and his pheromones/smell - those are JUST as important as his intellectual/personality traits.
Older German men are indeed more masculine, but still compare poorly to other men of European descent. I suspect nearly all the German people with spirit emigrated (& were killed in the wars ofc). I am very proud of my ancestry and I believe the best of the German people and German culture lives on in the US, and likely also in Latin America. I havenāt spent a lot of time in England. I spent quite a bit more time in France, but little since I was a teenager. Definitely more masculine than German men but not as much as American men. English men are probably a little more masculine than French but I donāt think itās a huge difference.
Here is the promised list as well as my list of bonus traits.
Requirements for partner:
* pale skinned
* not jabbed w/ Convid mRNA vax
* non-smoker
* 130+ IQ
* intellectual
* Aspergerās
* not fat
* 5ā8ā+
* highly inquisitive
* ambitious w/ specific passions & goals
* hard working & disciplined
* high libido
* pro-white
* far right
* contrarian/disagreeable
* will lead our family
* red meat & dairy enjoyer
* age range 18-70 - experience/knowledge gap & health more germane than age alone
Bonus partner traits:
* introverted
* 150+ IQ
* studies/works in STEM
* INTJ-A
* athletic & outdoorsy
* creative
* spiritual/religious
* handy/capable of home improvement
* enjoys board/card games
* light eyes
* tall
* leanly muscled
* comes from large family
* sexually dominant & willing to be a little sadistic in bed
* reads for pleasure
* enjoys sci-fi & fantasy
* intact penis
Lifestyle musts:
* spiritual/religious/hard culture childrearing
* homeschooling
* SAHM (happy to work from home part-time when possible)
* plastic/synthetic material avoidance for anything that touches the skin/our food (I have this covered; not as difficult as it sounds & ofc some exposure is inevitable & not something to stress over)
* co-sleeping w/infants
* rural living in cool temperate climate (at least long term)
Donāt mind:
* functional mental illness
* lack of assets/income
* underweight/scrawny
Btw, Convid is NOT a typo. I call it that because it is/was a con job, plus it can be handy to avoid censorship. š
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-26 21:07:35 +0000 UTC
@JO I donāt think I appear vulnerable in a cold approach setting, aside from being a slim, very delicately boned woman.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-26 20:58:45 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - My question was if you disagreed (or even understood) Alexander's contention that the average man being BELOW average in attractiveness is fundamentally illogical.
Also, by "must be minimum generic quality because I want top quality children" in the context of "White" used, you seem to be implying, not just genetic/phenotypic PREFERENCES (which we all possess), but suggests a certain predilection beyond the mere elimination of genetic disorders, and into racial (or social) eugenics. Is this correct? Beyond any considerations of the moral or ethical implications of such a decision, it necessarily seems to significantly restrict your pool of available candidates (especially if, as you appear to keep implying, those phenotypes you restrict yourself to, also tend to be associated with those LESS likely to approach YOU -- at least in Germany?).
PS. Granted that I am not terribly familiar with the details of the phenotypic breakdowns of the various ethnicities within the expanded European sub-continent, judging from what little I can observe from your profile photo, your features appear somewhat Eastern European to Central Asian in appearance. Is this how you are generally perceived in real life? To ensure our terminologies are consistent, here is what I more or less understand by the racial designation called "White": https://chatgpt.com/share/672eea8b-f7c4-800a-8eeb-ab9128496cb4
PPS. Co-parenting a "large family" seems PROFOUNDLY challenging (not to mention VERY expensive), ESPECIALLY utilizing "sperm-donation" -- is this concept not usually reserved for "separated" couples, not single parents? š¤
Joseph Omega
2024-11-17 21:56:12 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Not disputing the possibility, but can you better explain what "confidently vulnerable" looks like?
Joseph Omega
2024-11-17 21:01:43 +0000 UTC
@JO If you include men of all races then yes, I absolutely agree that the average man is below average in looks. Non-white men are not remotely on my sexual radar, though. Looks are definitely important to me as there must be sexual attraction and there must be a minimum genetic quality because I want top quality children. Voice and mannerisms decrease my options because I am particularly picky about these things versus looks alone & they have an outsized impact on attraction.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-04 19:57:12 +0000 UTC
@EL Yep, thatās my plan but with much less time spent per place, spending time in places that have a lot of the type of men Iām interested in & single men in my social network - but Iām having real difficulty getting my passport renewed. Otherwise Iād already be back in the US. If I donāt find someone within 6-12mo of intensive looking I will likely do some coparenting thing (and use a known sperm donor). I have time, but not that much if I want a large family, as I do.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-04 19:53:39 +0000 UTC
I speak fluent German, so my English isnāt relevant, especially as I rarely speak to Arab men & never in English. The Arab men are very aggressive here and by harass I mean they immediately approach without any signals of interest on my part (in fact, I do everything I can to ignore them entirely) & get way too close, corner me, grope me, try to kiss me, drive ridiculously slowly if theyāre a taxi driver to get more time with me etc. Iāve never been harassed by a white man, OTOH.
I suspect that many Arab men harass most attractive women here (itās definitely common) but my naturally vulnerable nature makes me more of a target. Iām told that men check me out a lot, but as Iāve said before, I am rarely approached by white men anywhere. Eric stands out in the Philippines bc Asian women love white men & theyāre uncommon there. Not analogous to my situation here, or anywhere Iāve been in the West. Though I likely stand out most places bc of my very confident posture.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-04 19:40:42 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - As I said, it may be semantics, but America strikes me as a macro-culture that swallows up mini-cultures. It's like a terrestrial Dyson Sphere (or strictly a Dyson Shell): https://chatgpt.com/share/672849ad-94c0-800a-9990-d32797731da2 "America, where cultures check in, but they never check out."
In addition, it DOES make sense for a population (ESPECIALLY the more homogeneous ones) to possess SOME measure of desire for novel genetic strains -- an attraction to the EXOTIC perhaps: https://chatgpt.com/share/67284c73-2370-800a-8daf-06aac53ac59b America (at least the metropolitan areas), being so heterogeneous, may be one of those places where the "exotic" may be so commonplace so as to lose much of that particular appeal. Not so much so, Europe, the Far East or Africa.
Update 1: Since initially posting, I added one additional exchange where I EXPLICITLY explore the analogy of America to a Dyson Sphere (Shell). The URL link is exactly the same.
Update 2: Also since initially posting, I added additional exchanges where I further explore and expand the concept of genetic diversity to issues of cultural and ideological diversity. Again, the URL link is exactly the same.
Joseph Omega
2024-11-04 03:44:42 +0000 UTC
@Joseph Omega- Itās not so much about the multicultural society thing. Itās about looking and sounding different from most people around you.
My wife is a Filipina. When she is in America, even when she isnāt speaking English, she still blends in. When I am in the Philippines, I donāt. I look different and I have a different accent. Thus the stares I get.
I suspect there are lots of white women in Germany, but not many who speak English well with an American accent. To white Germans, RM stands out a little. To Arab men in Germany, she stands out a lot.
Eric Linden
2024-11-04 03:26:13 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - I agree, with the minor (probably sematic) qualification that I see America as more "multiethnic" or "multiracial" (with one overarching patriotic "culture"), and Canada as more "multicultural" (with multiple competing "cultures" increasingly diluting its overarching patriotism). Admittedly, I COULD be misreading this.
PS. I'm using the word "patriotism" in the less fanatical sense of "national identity".
Joseph Omega
2024-11-04 02:08:19 +0000 UTC
@Joseph Omega & @RhodiumMaiden - As weāve discussed before, women already get lots more attention than men. Some men are lucky to get one compliment a year. Personally, I notice I get a lot more attention (everyone gawking at me) when I am in Asian countries. RMās already high amount of attention is turned up to maximum when she is in Germany around Arab men; and it feels like harassment. This doesnāt happen much in the US because we are probably the most multicultural country in the world. But it happens in other countries.
Eric Linden
2024-11-04 01:53:51 +0000 UTC
@Joseph Omega - I believe she has conveyed that she really wants children and her husband passed away. And if I have her age right, she has some time left to make it happen. Rhodium Maiden?
Eric Linden
2024-11-04 01:38:48 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - As I've heard the term too often used by women in an ambiguously wide variety of contexts, can you better clarify what you mean by "harass'?
Joseph Omega
2024-11-03 23:58:48 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - I'm not sure @RhodiumMaiden has conveyed, at least to me, the impression that she IS looking, and for what exactly -- I prefer not to presume.
Joseph Omega
2024-11-03 23:39:50 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - So you disagree with Alexander's contention that the idea that "the average man is below average in looks" is fundamentally illogical, or are you saying that looks are not all that important to you (in which case things like "voice and mannerisms" should INCREASE rather than DECREASE your options)?
Joseph Omega
2024-11-03 23:35:07 +0000 UTC
@RM - When I was young, unmarried, and had no kids, my plan was to move to a different state every year or two as soon as I got my career going. Then I got married and had kids. Then I got divorced and was stuck in Tucson for 17 years unless I wanted to give up my kids.
You have a big advantage. Good career, not married, no kids. You have a few years left before your window is closed. If you move every year, you have a good chance of find what you are looking for.
Eric Linden
2024-11-03 21:55:19 +0000 UTC
@JO I love NW European descent American men. Much more vitalistic, ambitious & intense. Yes, that Andover. Stanford felt like a real step down; I shouldāve gone to a small school in the NE instead, but I canāt regret the good people I met in CA. Not like I can turn back time regardless.
Based purely on looks, Iād say ~20% of men have the potential to be attractive to me. Voice & mannerisms reduce that number by probably half.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-03 20:31:34 +0000 UTC
@JO @EL Turning down my vulnerability - off is not an option - is a must because of all the aggressive Arab men here who harass me otherwise. I donāt need to act differently with white men.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-11-03 20:21:30 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - All perfectly true, but unfortunately this still does not answer the non-trivial boundary conditions problem of who and how the first steps of the Dance are initiated. Traditionally this was the responsibility of the MALE, but if this is being actively discouraged due to an ideology of "equality" and the threat of being labeled "toxic" in the attempt, we have set up a potentially unresolvable Catch-22 situation.
Joseph Omega
2024-11-01 14:33:37 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Wow. I can see why you may have trouble fitting in, in one place. Still, you must know the US the best. How do you compare German-American males here with those in the "Vaterland"? And is THIS the "Andover" to which you were referring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Academy ? I'm impressed.
On "hypergamous invisibility", what percentage of men would YOU refer to as "below average" in attractiveness?
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Joseph Omega
2024-10-31 07:19:21 +0000 UTC
@RM - Turning off your vulnerability is going into your masculine. As AG explains, when you are in a relationship, men can go more into their masculine, and women can go more into their feminine. And the closer and better the relationship, the more you can go into the feminine, and leave the masculine to him.
Eric Linden
2024-10-31 03:57:26 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Perhaps your default susceptibility to vulnerability may be safer in the German context you described, as you are more likely to be the one in control of the outcomes and consequences?
@JO Always happy to amuse! :) I wouldnāt say that I do it on command so much as Iām not capable of turning it off. The work that Iāve done has been on reducing my vulnerability when itās inappropriate, though fortunately Iāve never had too big of a problem with that. So I have no idea how I would advise someone else to be this way. I think it is an innate trait that was further reinforced by very secure attachment in my formative years. And itās further bolstered by inborn confidence which makes it even easier for me to be vulnerable because I essentially lack major insecurities (at least with regards to interacting with others).
I would say that falling in love for me romantically is *partly* a decision but there is a lot of it that happens on a subconscious level and especially a chemical level because I am exceptionally sensitive to pheromones (both male and female). The initial attraction is entirely out of my control but the decision to pursue it and invest in it and strengthen it is very much something that I have control over. Of course to what extent that all happens depends on the other person as well.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-30 22:46:30 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Maybe the concept would actually be better phrased as "hypergamous INvisibility", as it represents the tendency for women to NOT even register the "lower 95%" of eligible males as potential mates at all.
As you don't find yourself fitting in there, I gather you grew up elsewhere?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-30 18:32:54 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - I'm not on Malcolm and Simone Collins' discord server, so if you feel comfortable doing so, please do share your minimum requirements. Were you fans BEFORE Alexander interviewed them earlier this year? They are a fascinating couple with many intriguing ideas and world views, though admittedly a bit eccentric at times.
When you state that you donāt think you're very hypergamous except in the intellectual and intellectual curiosity areas, are you saying that things like height, physical strength, income, status etc. are effectively unimportant? And, although not strictly an aspect of hypergamy, I'm curious to what extent do popular attributes such as facial features, build and genetic phenotype matter to you?
Ah. The compliments must either be targeted, or of such an imaginative nature (like the Clark Gable line) to indicate either focused authenticity, or to distinguish themselves by their creativity. This makes perfect sense for your hypergamous preferences. š
Wow. I've never been to Germany, but you certainly don't paint a very flattering picture of a culture that was once known for their distinctly aggressive masculinity -- could it be age-related, with younger males LESS masculine than older ones? In fact, lack of masculinity is certainly not associated with those of German ancestry in America. As a baseline, how would you rate the English and French in Europe, for which I have more direct experience?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-30 05:48:54 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - "Not inappropriately when the men didnāt obviously welcome it though, & itās never scared men off or anything like that." A delightfully feminine comment that makes me laugh! š
When you say "excel at being vulnerable", are you suggesting that you possess the capability to do so on command? This strikes me as a rather RARE female ability, suggesting a level of female emotional discipline WELL beyond the usual. If this is your meaning, can you share how you achieve this feat?
Though not exactly the same phenomenon, I have always envisioned "love" as a "decision" one makes, where women imagine they "fall", where men envision they "jump". ChatGPT once summarized my contention by saying that "'Love is a Decision,' emphasizing that the conscious choice to engage in a long-term, intimate relationship replicates the deep bonds of biology. This intentional commitment allows a man and woman to become 'one flesh'ānot in a literal, biological sense, but through a profound emotional and psychological union. By deciding to invest in each other, they create a bond as strong and enduring as familial ties." To what extent would you agree or disagree?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-30 05:12:22 +0000 UTC
Iām not sure what hypergamous visibility means? A good number of men are initially attractive to me, but then once I start talking to them I find them lacking in personality and intelligence.
Thatās a decent way of putting it. Germans are kinda type C and I am quite type A. I find a lack of competitiveness and risk aversion/conflict aversion very unappealing in a man. I like disagreeable, fearless men. Modern Germans are too inexpressive, low energy, agreeable, slow, rule following/compliant, lacking in passion & ambition, ābasicā etc. By far the worst part of living here is that I do not fit in.
Obviously Iām not super attracted to every man, but I got close to my late husband & was casually touching him within the first hour of our meeting - probably 30min. To be fair, he was not a total stranger as he was a friend of a friend of a good friend. Iāve only been touchy with one man who cold aproached me, so thatās rare. But I have approached and gotten touchy with several men I met through my social circles. Not inappropriately when the men didnāt obviously welcome it though, & itās never scared men off or anything like that. Despite not always picking up on social cues, I am extremely sensitive to any hint of sexual/romantic interest. I excel at being vulnerable (with people I intuit to be worthy & compatible ofc) & getting them to open up in response, which makes my actions in such situations flow in a very natural manner. And being quite decisive & direct, I donāt beat around the bush. Works for me, at least with non- German men.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-30 01:00:33 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Agreed.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-29 00:24:59 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - So how would you describe your "hypergamous visibility"? Do you identify yourself to be in the camp that considers "most men are unattractive"?
As to a comparison of WASP versus "Germanic" temperaments, is this akin to Type A versus Type C personalities? If you believe you are not aggressive, what personality type(s) would you describe yourself as being closest to?
PS. I had to refamiliarize myself with the types: https://chatgpt.com/share/67202a14-dc8c-800a-8afb-430086766798 Very interesting gender predilections. I think I'm significantly more C than A myself.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-29 00:16:47 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Ah certainly, I can see how your accumulated life experience and knowledge of the art of sophistication, stylishness and femininity, as well as an absence of the usual jarring "girl empowerment signals" (like tattoos, odd piercings, heavy makeup and other artificialities) could be refreshingly advantageous to even younger men. I can also see how your "forwardness" COULD be interpreted as somewhat "familar" to younger males: https://chatgpt.com/share/672024ad-b4a4-800a-9ce6-b5ac56fccd24
Joseph Omega
2024-10-29 00:00:12 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - So interesting. Did you make any CONSCIOUS effort to "soften"? If so, what did you identify about yourself that may have been unapproachable and dominant, and how did you overcome/mitigate/disguise it? How would you rate your personal degree of Hypergamy?
On simping: What would you describe as "excessive"? Complimenting a woman on her beauty when youāre really into her, but donāt know her at all appears to fall within the very DEFINITION of a traditional "cold approach". I'd gathered that SO much had to do with the FORM that such compliments would take -- imagination and creativity appears key: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGccRE_iaDM
Also, aren't you afraid that being so quick to approach that the man has no time to initiate would send the wrong message about your "looseness"? Is this even a concern for you? Could this be part of the "vibe" that German men dislike?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-28 23:31:26 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - I just saw this response -- I find it useful to click the ā„ associated with the comment to which you are responding (or any others) so that a notification can be explicitly sent, otherwise your target audience may have no way of knowing you replied.
On your response: What you say makes PERFECT intuitive sense to me, and consistent with my own experience of female behavior under similar conditions -- considering the emotional and physical risks to women associated with such "cold approaches", I found the one responsive girl's behavior to be QUITE atypical, and hence suggestive of a staged performance. In fact, your own "enthusiastic" response, even if ostensibly "interested", deviates a bit from the normal in the cultures I'm familiar with (assuming no significant intoxication is involved). Unsolicited touching or leaning into "happening in minutes" would surprise me and honestly intuitively make me VERY wary (not to be confused with upset in ANY way, of course š).
Joseph Omega
2024-10-28 23:09:13 +0000 UTC
Part of it is definitely Germany because they have a weird dating ritual here which doesnāt involve cold approaches. But also, I think German men just donāt like my vibe. Itās very different from any other country Iāve been in and itās not due to my age. Men do check me out though. I am getting approached more with age, despite there being a year when I was 20 to 21 where I went out raving or clubbing at least twice a month. I can just barely count the times Iāve been approached in person on both hands. Half as many women have approached me, most during that year. I think I come off as unapproachable and dominant. Or came - I think Iāve softened, or maybe younger men like my vibe? I would define simping as any excessive undeserved flattery from men towards women. Like complimenting a woman on her beauty when youāre really into her, but donāt know her at all. Interest should be earned.
Itās also possible that because I am so quick to approach that I donāt give men enough time to initiate š Iām not very patient about such things.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-27 04:23:08 +0000 UTC
@JO I think itās that many young women are very poor quality and in comparison, I do well, especially bc I look young - my figure hasnāt changed at all, but I doubt Iād be mistaken for a teen or college student. Probably dressing more modestly, but stylishly & femininely (I see a lot of sloppily dressed women in baggy clothing) & not having artificial coloured hair or tattoos or make up helps too.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-27 04:17:27 +0000 UTC
Another man chimed in and said he didnāt find me intense at all. Those chatting at the time came to the conclusion that it was a WASP versus more dour Germanic temperament thing. Because someone commented that maybe I got my intensity from my German half and I was quick to correct them that I most definitely get it from my WASP half. The guy who chimed in was also a WASP. So cultural differences, seems like. The āscaredā man is also 20yrs younger and did say my age was a factor, which is completely understandable. The WASP guy is 11yrs younger. I donāt think Iām aggressive (Iāve never been described as such) but Iām very discriminating, particular, type A etc. Not everyone is into that.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-27 04:12:39 +0000 UTC
@JO Staged. I get extreme scam vibes from that dude.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-27 04:05:46 +0000 UTC
I would have waved and said nice to meet you in a neutral way because I believe in common courtesy, but I donāt find him attractive so I wouldnāt indicate interest. If I had been interested in him, I would have been very enthusiastic and gotten closer to him and then after talking and gauging his interest, Iād touch his arm, lean against him etc. But at the point I feel heās no longer a stranger. Which can happen in minutes to hours. But shaking hands with any man is really weird imo.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-27 03:57:57 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - I only just realized the Israeli flag in the background - so I guess that is the accent we hear. Here is a link to the posting: https://www.tiktok.com/@master.sanker/video/7395876015786052906 I'm guessing that it IS staged, but it appears part of a whole slew of similar "social experiments" and pranks, not just in Israel, but in Miami and elsewhere.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 05:24:13 +0000 UTC
I thought it may be staged as well. And now itās missing from the YouTube release of the video. https://youtu.be/iARmUuzl_Pg?si=N1vBK7D-VcVZmzx2
Eric Linden
2024-10-22 03:28:45 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Could it be that older women are often perceived by younger men to be either more desperate OR more appreciative OR less "modern" and hence more appoachable?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 03:08:40 +0000 UTC
@Ashwin Srinivas - I never said it was ethical, I just said it was flattering. As both an ethical and pragmatic person I find it difficult to lie to myself about the rather obvious ego boost, but both my ethics and practicality effectively overrides my baser instincts under almost all conditions. Still, if I saw a particularly obnoxious Chad that I felt needed taking down a peg, I CAN see myself briefly fantasizing having him shot down cruelly ... then, of course, I come to my senses. š
But, from what I can tell, both women AND men have similar lower-level desires and fantasies to proudly show off any mates they consider particularly attractive to the rest of the world -- that is why we dress up to go out in garb specifically designed to attract attention from others. The only curious exception appears to be in certain parts of the Muslim world, where women are routinely HIDDEN from external eyes in public -- though I wonder at the potentially repressed sexual energies this may inadvertently generate: An alternate viewpoint based loosely on similar base instincts and sentiments, but differently manifested.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 02:33:18 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Seems perfectly reasonable. So, seeing as he offered his hand, what would you have said to indicate interest instead?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 01:15:45 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Did this man (or any other) ever elaborate on what he meant? Aggressiveness? Pickiness?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 01:10:45 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - By "setup", do you mean you think it STAGED, or are you remarking on the ETHICS of the "experiment"?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 01:04:56 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden - Fascinating. Why do you think you've always had to approach? Is it a region-specific phenomenon (Germany?), a location-specific phenomenon (bars, nightclubs, church, grocery store, etc.), a matter of hypergamous visibility ("most men are unattractive") or related in some way to your projected "vibe"? What, if any male behavior would you categorize as "simping"?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 01:01:56 +0000 UTC
@RhodiumMaiden My thoughts exactly.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-10-22 00:56:30 +0000 UTC
@Joseph I guess I don't understand what's flattering about it. Given that she's doing it with you full knowledge.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-10-22 00:56:14 +0000 UTC
That part at timestamp 5:58 where she says "do you need a tampon" is PARTICULARLY unnerving. The fact that Feminism is COMPLETELY silent (even in academia) on the common usage of such language by their sisters makes it VERY difficult for men to develop any degree of respect for the movement, and to take their claims of rational argument for their cause, seriously. Posting again here my interesting conversation with ChatGPT on the topic: https://chatgpt.com/share/671421fc-a3c4-800a-82bb-e2b9070834d7 I think ChatGPT was being VERY polite in its final assessments.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-22 00:46:53 +0000 UTC
Iāve actually been getting approached more with age, weirdly, and by MUCH younger men.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-22 00:32:56 +0000 UTC
I canāt stand any kind of deception or manipulation, and I have seen both genders do that. Though women definitely have far more opportunity to do so than men.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-22 00:28:35 +0000 UTC
A man said he would have considered contacting me - and this is just on a discord server - except that āmy intensity and exacting nature scare himā. š¤·āāļø
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-22 00:23:55 +0000 UTC
Itās such a setup.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-22 00:17:23 +0000 UTC
Iāve rarely been approached & I always found it flattering (excluding the Arab men, but they do more like harass & I do not use that word lightly). Iāve always had to approach - except on apps which suck - or Iād never find men to date. Iāve never considered it simping for a white man to approach me as a white woman, and I automatically respect him more for the bravery, especially when itās a cold approach.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-22 00:16:25 +0000 UTC
I wouldnāt have taken that manās hand. I donāt touch strange men especially not ones who look & act like that. Iād talk to him, but not touch.
RhodiumMaiden
2024-10-22 00:02:09 +0000 UTC
@Peter - Well, many if not MOST women WOULD agree that they are highly "emotional creatures", so Hanlon's Razor seems applicable here: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity [or emotion]." I also like to praphrase Arthur C. Clarke as well: "Any sufficiently advanced ignorance is indistinguisable from evil." So, no need for Illuminati involvement I think.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 23:57:32 +0000 UTC
@Ashwin Srinivas - You appear to have gotten the exact OPPOSITE impression from my words: "It strikes me as somewhat flattering if my mate were to do such things EXACTLY as described (and with my FULL knowledge)". Also, note my final words: "From an overall practical point of view, any ego rewards may not be worth the potential risks of such behavior." So, no.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 23:33:44 +0000 UTC
@Joseph So, you would still find it flattering if your significant other sent out choosing signals to other men in your absence and even gave them her number and chatted with them for a little bit?
Also, you said that it would be flattering if she does this with you knowing about it. So, you're ok with her leading men on and making it look like they have a chance just to get some ego instant gratification?
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-10-21 22:50:27 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - Strange. The video you are taken to when you click the [YouTube] link on the Patreon video, takes you to one DIFFERENT from the one you supplied: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUEBj74U2Nc I see: There are TWO Alexander Grace YouTube channels -- Public and Patreon. š
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 21:49:37 +0000 UTC
@Joseph Omega- https://youtu.be/iARmUuzl_Pg?si=Fy7y-4PC8_NU6vYq
The guy giving the $20,000.00 is missing.
Eric Linden
2024-10-21 19:19:10 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - It seems the same for me -- which clip do YOU see?
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 17:41:11 +0000 UTC
@Peter - As to male loneliness: Males have ALWAYS been alone -- it is just the phenomenon of widespread "loneliness" that is new. I suspect that the "sisterhood", despite its claims of UNITY and CAMARADERIE, are at least as lonely, and probably much MUCH MORE so, considering their direct evolutionary dependency on such connections. I think that much of their vitriol as well as the workaholicism and hopelessness they experience likely explains women's recent and abruptly sharp descent into vile acts of depravity and self-hatred. It is their near pathological fear of emotional vulnerability (the actual source of their "soft power" that Feminism has ironically convinced them to hate) that has isolated them from their NATURAL confidants, consolers and protectors -- their genetic mates, who likewise suffer the absence from their NATURAL sources of meaning and purpose and caring. Two halves of a broken dimorphic coin.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 10:38:28 +0000 UTC
The YT version has a different opening TikTok clip. I wonder why.
Eric Linden
2024-10-21 10:16:52 +0000 UTC
@Peter- Young men may go through a short period where they are lonely because they didnāt get their approval, acceptance, or validation through women; but they get over it quickly and move on to other pursuits, as Iām sure you did. Some men seek therapy, but they quickly learn it is a waste of time for men.
Have you considered that men have fewer or no friends by choice? Men are more into individual pursuits. Imagine a group of men getting together to just talk for hours. Doesnāt happen. If men canāt find guy friends to do an activity with them, they just go themselves. Women wouldnāt go.
More senior women are in assisted living because they need socialization. Senior men live alone longer. Itās by choice. And itās one of the reasons women live longer.
Men and women are different. They experience loneliness differently. They experience emotions differently.
Eric Linden
2024-10-21 10:00:10 +0000 UTC
@Peter - It MAY take until Gen Beta: Sometimes you get the bear ... sometimes the bear gets you. š¤·āāļø
Joseph Omega
2024-10-21 09:29:40 +0000 UTC
@JO ypu mean millennials and gen z hard vore man hating and gen alpha comming back to a more balanced approach⦠but that doesnāt solve my dilemma.. i can fathom dating gen z but gen alpha š thats not an Option
Peter
2024-10-21 07:23:27 +0000 UTC
Oof when has a rational and objective truth ever truely deterred women from their emotional reality and truth and gut feelings?
What are bears, cuddly toys, what are men, scary⦠(ppl are woefully out of touch with nature. How many men believe they can actually fight a bearā¦..)
End of..
Youtube clip done..
Plus you know how conscious and planned it has to be for the answer to be a conscious decision to make use of a opportunity to change society. Bruh. Thats illuminati level plotting and planning. I utterly doubt that amount of forethought
Im betting on pure gut responses
Peter
2024-10-21 06:57:56 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - No idea. It was just randomly sent to me as a JPEG.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 21:28:05 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - This is true. It IS a crap shoot, but fortunately with certain statistical predictabilities upon which to hang our hopes.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 20:54:34 +0000 UTC
Haha. Iām stealing that one. Where did it come from?
Eric Linden
2024-10-20 20:49:09 +0000 UTC
Men stopped approaching women not because men are scared of women. Men are wary of big daddy government and social media mob behind her -- the worst bullies of our time.
Hyperion
2024-10-20 20:14:34 +0000 UTC
@Joseph Omega- I agree that many things come back, but they donāt always come back the same.
For instance, until recently it has been ārebelliousā for young men to leave Christianity; but in the past five years there has been an increase in young men going to church. It is now ārebelliousā to start attending church when your parents never took you. But do I think the pendulum will swing all the way back? No.
Will cold approach come back? Maybe. But not to the same degree or in the same way.
Eric Linden
2024-10-20 20:01:05 +0000 UTC
I was just sent the following, entitled "The World's Shortest Fairytale" š:
"Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?' The girl said, 'NO!' And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and went fishing and hunting and played golf a lot and drank beer and whiskey and had loads of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted. The end."
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 19:37:00 +0000 UTC
@Well shit. - Indeed. The gun used by Feminists to shoot themselves in the foot appears to be fully automatic and of VERY high caliber.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 19:03:47 +0000 UTC
@Hyperion - I get the impression that this clip may have originated in Eastern Europe, and that the presenter is of Middle Eastern origin. I am VERY skeptical as to the probability of this experiment producing ANY takers in a "Western" context. Even in the specific context of this video, there is VERY little chance that this woman will give ANY of the money to charity, but I AM tempted to believe she WILL do so to her family, as I suspect, given her apparent age, she does not trust herself with it.
PS. I fear that Disney in its present form cannot be saved -- it probably will have to get a whole lot worse before it gets better. I never would have predicted "Go woke and go broke" would take THIS long.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 18:58:13 +0000 UTC
@Hyperion - A VERY adroit observation and analysis! Though quite long, I just engaged in an exchange with ChatGPT on the topic (including an analysis of your specific arguments and conclusions): https://chatgpt.com/share/67154ef1-7664-800a-a748-462269f8db21
If you wish, you may just skip the full development of the dialogue, and scroll all the way to the very end of the conversation that addresses your ideas directly.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 18:48:39 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - My suspicion (and hope) is that this time MAY soon revisit us: https://chatgpt.com/share/67154020-e16c-800a-b454-ca099e4b2039
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 17:39:32 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - The same holds true for men as well, with the CRITICAL difference being that we have a built-in conscience and sense of honor that mitigates and retards the more egregious exploitative aspects of the phenomenon -- I'm not sure women quite know how to even SPELL the word honor. Now that the "[Feminized] Patriarchy" have handed women the "hard power" they have so petulantly coveted, they do not have the evolutionarilly honed skills for wielding it responsibly
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 17:33:55 +0000 UTC
It gives a woman an ego boost to pass judgement on men.
Eric Linden
2024-10-20 15:55:16 +0000 UTC
Cold approach had its time, but that time has long since passed.
Eric Linden
2024-10-20 15:50:32 +0000 UTC
This is why I stopped doing cold approaches. It's so dehumanizing and it's a real world experience of simping. Like no woman is ever going to respect a man who does that. And LMAO that chick bashing men for not approaching. You can tell she has never done that HERSELF. How about she approaches couple good looking high status dudes, and be interesting. Then we'll talk. And this is so true. In this day and age, it's extremely hard as a man to gain any respect from an average woman. This ultimately kills dating. Like you see in old school movies, a man approaching a woman having a great convo(with both parties investing in it) and this is how their romantic relationship started. Nowadays this is just a fantasy from a movie. And haha at 2:06 fully agree with what Alex said in his previous videos that there is an overvaluing speculation bubble in the dating market. This video proves it. A 3/10 that has the standards of a 9/10. HOW DID IT COME TO THIS!
Louis
2024-10-20 13:27:01 +0000 UTC
Women have trained men to not care about their opinions regardless of whether they're interested or not. Then wonder why men never trust them, never rely on them and never commit to them. It's irreversible now and you can 'fragile masculinity' try to shame men all day but a ho showing her true colours is no longer hurtful, it's a relief.
Well shit.
2024-10-20 12:06:23 +0000 UTC
Gotta admit, the clip at the beginning of the video is deeply satisfying. It has the potential of becoming a fable-turned-timeless-animated-classic that can potentially save woke Disney, if it can be saved at all.
Hyperion
2024-10-20 09:50:13 +0000 UTC
Using logic to explain female thought or behavior is utterly futile, but I'm inclined to try nevertheless. I suspect the reason women prefer to encounter a bear in the woods over a man is that, the hairiest animal they've ever encountered in real life is probably their own father, if they even have one. Their idea of a bear is that of Winnie-the Pooh or Care Bears.
How else would one grapple with the idea that a women are still having promiscuous relations with a creature more dangerous and threatening than a bear --according to women i.e. -- more times than they care to confess or admit?
Hyperion
2024-10-20 09:24:36 +0000 UTC
Trigger warning to myself š
I hate videos that portray women as heartless monstersā¦.
Even though it feels like that is fighting reality.
Without having seen the video i know many women donāt even see anything wrong with it. Like completely unintentional and oblivious to the situation (pain caused)
This is going to trigger menš
Well lets see
Peter
2024-10-20 06:29:50 +0000 UTC
Thank you
Anthony White
2024-10-20 04:07:48 +0000 UTC
@Steven - As they say, talk is cheap. Besides, almost all women possess the calm assurance that no "real man" would EVER allow them to run the experiment. š» Not to mention the names we would be called if we ever FAILED to rescue them from themselves (OR the bear) -- checkout the thread below with @Eric Linden (concerning "manning up").
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 03:54:42 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - Much depends on the street though, but I acknowledge the point concerning men's innate chivalry that women often take for granted.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 03:45:13 +0000 UTC
@Steven - Said another way, a woman without at least the capacity or capability to swim against the tide of expected opinion could NEVER qualify as high value to me. šāāļø
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 03:41:12 +0000 UTC
It is statistically safer for a woman to walk down the street than a man.
Eric Linden
2024-10-20 02:11:37 +0000 UTC
Certainly there is a remarkable lack of accountability especially for their words or any awareness of consequence at all really in a sizeable subset of the population.
However I do not think the women actually believe what they answer with. If we put each of these women in the woods with a caged man and a caged bear letting them choose which one is unlocked... I find it hard to believe that they would choose the bear. Run the experiment cowards hahah.
Steven
2024-10-20 01:47:52 +0000 UTC
I suppose it is a big step in a relative sense. It's an indication of minimal viability for interaction perhaps but certainly not of high value, at least not to me.
Steven
2024-10-20 01:36:06 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - Mostly I imagine it's because of her winsome personality. š
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 01:27:35 +0000 UTC
@Anthony White - Her videos are also on her YouTube channel -- here is the SPECIFIC one featured: https://youtu.be/gvG30G3TL4c?si=Fw1o9qwiyACPA39R
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 01:24:06 +0000 UTC
@Steven - I think you're perfectly right that MOST women with any true connection to reality who would say this know perfectly well how utterly outrageous it is. But unfortunately I believe there IS another sizable (and much more clueless) group who piggy-back upon their more shameless sisters' remarks, and who ACTUALLY believe it. The two groups DO however share the very same trait of a REMARKABLE lack of accountability for the consequences of their words -- meta-messaging as when they say "I hate you!" for no other reason than to gain childlike attention and/or sympathy.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-20 01:02:31 +0000 UTC
PSA. Women don't actually think they're safer with a bear, it's part of the superiority/shaming tactic. They are more interested in manipulating the social world and this hyperthetical is a lay up. They are in fact not faced with outrunning a bear, they are presented with a social opportunity. They're obviously playing us at the meta game. Let's maybe stop indulging them as if we are in any way taking what they say at face value. They laugh at the men who take this shit seriously, it's demeaning. Stop giving them what they want or at the very least put them in the woods with a bear.
Steven
2024-10-19 23:54:31 +0000 UTC
@Ashwin Srinivas - At one level, it strikes me as somewhat flattering if my mate were to do such things EXACTLY as described (and with my FULL knowledge) -- it could be imagined similar to her dressing seductively in public while in my presence: "See but don't touch" rules apply, and could be quite ego-boosting. The problems would be in any unchecked ASSUMPTION that, in actuality, her exclusively to me were in question, as well as the PHYSICAL risk to her (or myself) associated with any excessively negative responses generated by any jilted males. So, from an overall practical point of view, any ego rewards may not be worth the potential risks of such behavior.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-19 23:41:27 +0000 UTC
I think you're right but the modern situation does exacerbate the frequency and intensity of rejections. I think it's pretty self evident that it's gotten worse not better and that does at least partly come from modern feminism.
Steven
2024-10-19 23:34:47 +0000 UTC
@Steven - I never called her "kind", merely sufficiently self motivated and self aware to swim AGAINST the tide of her sisterhood (at least in that moment), which is an ENORMOUS first step for a "Lemming". I don't know if she is an ACTUAL "sigma" it not, but such "rebellions" are certainly indicative of their behavior -- that's why I call them "markings" of high value.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-19 23:20:19 +0000 UTC
She's mildly approachable and instead of outright dismissing the guy shakes his hand and says hi. You're saying that she's "earned" that 20k and she's the kind of "sigma female" who breaks free of the hive mind... Oh please. She did fuck all. That was just a single response in a single situation and maybe she was attracted to the guy because he's tall, confident and dressed well (aka hypergamy says she could get something from him). You can't even say that she's kind from this one interaction, that's a projection.
Steven
2024-10-19 23:08:51 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - And in the counterpoint, there is the TRULY bizarre and INCREDIBLE irony of women insulting men with "belittling" terms that reference their OWN gender -- here are ChatGPT's insightful examples: https://chatgpt.com/share/671421fc-a3c4-800a-82bb-e2b9070834d7 Its frequent candor never ceases to amaze me.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-19 21:13:12 +0000 UTC
@Eric Linden - Indeed. Thank goodness for the "Sigma Females" willing to run against the grain and take a chance on an unpopular "island" with "potential" -- the markings of TRUE "high quality".
Though I can't blame the average woman for their nature, I CAN (and WILL) blame "Feminism" for not promoting or even supporting such courageous and enterprising attributes.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-19 21:02:35 +0000 UTC
Women seem to think āman upā has to do with how we approach and treat women. When I tell my son to man up, it never has anything to do with how he interacts with women.
Eric Linden
2024-10-19 19:32:01 +0000 UTC
The woman in her video is getting older. That is the real reason men donāt approach her anymore. She is no longer 19 years old.
Eric Linden
2024-10-19 18:32:13 +0000 UTC
@Joseph Omega- The opposite of the hive mind is the clip at the very beginning of the video, where the woman gets $20,000 for breaking free of the hive mind. Her friends immediately want ātheir fair shareā of the money, despite the fact that they did quite the opposite of earning it.
However, can we blame women for their hive mind mentality when, as you point out, evolutionary psychology makes it inherent in their genetic makeup?
Eric Linden
2024-10-19 18:21:28 +0000 UTC
This is a question for the guys:
As AG mentioned, women love leading men on to get them to chase and then reject them and then the cycle repeats. I've observed this happen quite a few times. At work, in school, in a dance class etc.
So, how would you react if you found out that your girlfriend/spouse was leading men on for attention by showing that she likes him, flirting with him etc to get him to ask her out and then turn him down saying she is not single or just says that she needs to think about it for longer etc.?
Please let me know. And of course, women are welcomed to give their opinion and thoughts too. Especially in examining if the roles were reversed.
Ashwin Srinivas
2024-10-19 18:16:39 +0000 UTC
The key to understanding so much of this lies at timestamp 9:58 when the moderator asks "Did you only say that because your two friends over here [said it]?". Despite her denial, this is MOST CERTAINLY the case: Most women more often just parrot the "popular opinion" or "what's expected of them by 'the sisterhood'". This "hive mind" mentality has evolutionary roots wherein group cooperation helped to ensure survival, so that a MAJOR fear (well beyond the ability of most men to fully comprehend), would be "ostracization", "public shaming" or "banishment" (which could LITERALLY be a death sentence).
In contrast, men traditionally have been raised, taught and encouraged, for the most part, to have "independent thought", except where the survivial of the ENTIRE tribe is at stake (and accounts for voluntary and often ENTHUSIASTIC enlistment into armies), or to avoid ACTUAL physical attack on their person or individual family unit (their genes) by the rest of the tribe (rather than mere banishment).
Ironically, by a woman publically rejecting a man of perceived lower value (one at possible high risk of ostracization or banishment), she sends the message to her hive that she is willing to "play ball" and, by extension, reduces the risk of banishment herself. Also note that the ONLY fear that does NOT threaten the sisterhood's ACTUAL existence and relevancy is "public shaming", so it makes sense that it would be one they might be willing to eliminate (such as by the movements against "slut shaming") and the promotion of their "empowerment" through promiscuous behavior.
Joseph Omega
2024-10-19 17:52:09 +0000 UTC
Modern women aren't bringing much to the table. The risk/reward paradigm needs to shift for women to get pursued. I find the mental gymnastics and entitlement from undeserving women as virtue signaling but it's unsurprising. I'll continue to hold the women I date to higher standards because a woman needs to qualify to remain in my life, not the other way around.
Eric Andreas
2024-10-19 15:37:01 +0000 UTC
This video has the song āWonderful Tonightā running through my head. Men are not blameless at all all this. āWonderful Tonightā is about a man and a woman who have been married for 20 years and have three kids.
Young men instinctively believe that complimenting a woman who is a stranger will get them somewhere.
Only compliment a woman if you can come up with something that you are certain nobody else has said. If you canāt think of anything, move on.
Eric Linden
2024-10-19 13:21:59 +0000 UTC
The women complaining that men never approach women anymore are suffering a disease called aging. Men really havenāt changed much. The approaches decrease as looks fade.
Eric Linden
2024-10-19 12:30:40 +0000 UTC
Women receive countless compliments daily. Some men are lucky to receive one a year.
Eric Linden
2024-10-19 12:27:02 +0000 UTC
I give a damn about rejection. This doesn't hurt me at all. The main reason to be hesitant to approach a woman is that I don't want to flatter somebody for the wrong reasons or who doesn't deserve it. I don't want to inflate a woman's egos even further, while women sometimes are a cramp in the ass already. The thought that I contribute to hoe-flation is unbearable to me.
John G.Alt
2024-10-19 10:04:48 +0000 UTC
I approach women and 99% of the time it leads to rejection even if I get a number/date: usually fake or flakes and realize that it just gives them a sense of superiority and being desired so I just stop caring and just do it for the repetition so when I do find someone with good character and that find my traits attractive that 1% I guess I can talk to them like a normal person that shows interest. This also sober me up especially when women lie with a smile each time and help me understand body language better and to be indifferent to rejection and women. Ik this is very bleak/grim.
tyler wilcox
2024-10-19 09:18:42 +0000 UTC
The first word that comes to mind is schadenfreude "Schadenfreude is the experience of pleasure, joy, or self-satisfaction that comes from learning of or witnessing the troubles, failures, pain, suffering, or humiliation of another." "The link between schadenfreude and empathy is an ongoing topic of study. Psychologists note that schadenfreude occurs when empathy is absent, such as when one can dehumanize the person experiencing misfortune. With empathy, we feel bad for this person, as we would feel with our own personal misfortune. However, with dehumanization, empathy erodes and schadenfreude can more easily occur." So, the absence of empathy is key....this reddit post encapsulates the core issues in this subject of women enjoying rejecting men "Women have no empathy towards weak or unsuccessful men
We live in a society that hypocritically says "be yourself, that's enough" but then rejects those who are themselves because they aren't in that top 20% of attractiveness/wealth/social standing.
women want men to be more emotional and sympathetic but don't give them the same compassion and when men do show emotion they mock them and tell them to "man up" and "stop being a pussy"
women claim to want compassionate men but in reality they think of these men as weak, they are much more interested in jerks because it creates a form of drama that makes life more interesting, rejection rates are much much higher for men when compared to women, and dating for the average man is just horrible, over 66% of worldwide suicides are male and society is becoming increasingly hostile to young men, and there is no support network for them like there is for women, in universities women outnumber men 6 to 4 but there are various feminist societies and girl specific help available, none of this support exists for men
casual sex from nightclubs and tinder have destroyed dating norms and women do not want to settle down nowadays for just one romantic partner, they are more likely to sleep around with a lot. women never hold compassion or empathy for unsuccessful or weak men and routinely mock them and taunt them and think they are better than them
if you are not rich, highly attractive or successful then women will not want to be associated with a "looser", it will be a blight on their social standing within their friendship groups, these men are deprived of physical contact and social interaction and women openly mock them
a large percentage of average or below average women think they are entitled to be dating highly attractive and successful people and they avoid normal looking guys in their attractiveness range, when a normal guy approaches them and asks them out they label him a "creep".
porn, mass media and online dating has raised standards to an unachievable high and on lt the top 20% of men are found to be attractive to women, as online dating profile studies have shown, women will have no problem dating an ex convict who raped people if he is highly attractive, but if the average man messaged them with a sexually charged message they would be labelled a creep"...I had originally questioned if women had less empathy than men but there seems to be no research that bears this out...however "On the other hand, a lack of empathy can be associated with borderline personality disorder, autism, bipolar disorder, and sociopathy, as well as more benign problems, such as low emotional intelligence, stress, and alexithymia." I might add that histrionic personality disorder..."Low empathy is not a diagnostic criterion for HPD, and many people with HPD are sensitive to others' feelings. However, people with HPD may have difficulty recognizing and identifying emotions in others, which can appear as a lack of empathy.
Attention seeking
People with HPD often seek attention through dramatic, emotional, and seductive behaviors. They may be uncomfortable when they are not the center of attention. " And then there is avoidant personality disorder..."Yes, people with avoidant personality disorder (AVPD) may have difficulty with empathy:
Perceiving others
People with AVPD may view others as judgmental or hostile, rather than sympathetic. " I would add that all this social media has had a profound effect on behavior but....given what this joy in rejection might indicate, she may be giving you a huge favor in rejecting you and not wasting your time, energy and most important, your peace of mind.
Daniel L Chin
2024-10-19 08:20:43 +0000 UTC
I think the explanation for women's cruelty in their rejections of men come from a much more selfish reason than to hurt the men who approach them. There was a study (Alex talked about it in an old video) which claimed that women's cruel rejections of men are meant to be a signal to higher value men that the lower value man that approached her is beneath her and that she therefore is higher value. It's toxic and I don't advocate for it but it is not a modern phenomenon that comes from modern feminism even if the women performing these behaviors are claiming it to be.
Tomer Shamay
2024-10-19 06:44:06 +0000 UTC
*shakes head*..... Annnd they wonder why MGTOW exists.
John McGuinness
2024-10-19 06:19:46 +0000 UTC
That video by sara eaton on tick tok - that video - that is a brilliant summary of the the last 10 years