PROLETKULT 13 - eXpropriate SpaceX w/ Beka Valentine, Nick Chavez
Added 2024-12-18 11:00:06 +0000 UTC The Antifada sideproject about the paranormal, the parapolitical, science fiction, and science futurism returns to check in on the New Space Age!
While the left typically perceives Elon Musk as an all-talk grifter, our guest Beka Valentine argues his Starship program will make many off-earth industries, like drug manufacturing and solar harvesting, inevitable through dramatically lowering the cost of launching to low-Earth orbit. Could his and Bezos's fantasies of colonies on the moon, Mars, or in asteroid belts be far behind?
If so, what happened to the late-2010s enthusiasm for "Fully Automated Luxury Space Communism"? Is the left now anti-space, and is that position leaving the future entirely in the hands of capitalists and imperialist states? In her new essay for Strange Matters, Valentine argues we should begin strategizing for this new era so we don't get stranded from Elysium.
Guest co-host Nick Chavez gives the engineer's perspective, and describes his critique of ME Obrien and Eman Abdelhadi's vision of expropriating a SpaceX-like factory in their speculative novel Everything for Everyone.
Beka Valentine's essay in Strange Matters:
https://strangematters.coop/political-economy-of-near-future-space-industries/
Inside Musk's Starfactory: https://wccftech.com/spacex-is-using-robots-to-make-starship-rockets-in-texas-shows-footage/
Nick Chavez's review of Everything for Everyone:
https://designformanufracture.com/2023/01/25/review-everything-for-everyone-an-oral-history-of-the-new-york-commune-2052-2072-by-m-e-obrien-and-eman-abdelhadi/
Don't Let Them Leave! zine: https://ia903003.us.archive.org/20/items/dontletthemleave/Dont-Let-Them-Leave-zine-unimposed%20.pdf
Past episodes of Proletkult: https://www.patreon.com/collection/87627
Song - Giorgio Moroder - Racer
Comments
Even with unlimited funds, social breakdown of varying magnitude will stop their plans.
Soy Jim
2024-12-23 22:23:35 +0000 UTCThis was a bit fanciful, even for Proletkult
Niklas Krogerus
2024-12-19 12:58:57 +0000 UTChttps://tinyurl.com/itsagundamn
𝐅𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐚 𝐏𝐨𝐬𝐭
2024-12-18 22:01:53 +0000 UTCTrying to clone people might be a thing capitalist try to implement
Stephen R.
2024-12-18 21:48:26 +0000 UTCBecause Beka has ruled out the possibility of revolution “in the next 25-50 years” (1:16:28) there is, naturally, nothing left to do except the value-form but cooperative™. This resignation to the inevitability of our miserable present embodies the spiritual core of social-democracy: lack the courage to accept the things we cannot change, serenely deny the things we can, and avoid at all costs the wisdom to know the difference.
daytorn
2024-12-18 21:04:29 +0000 UTCLove the art
Stephen R.
2024-12-18 20:36:27 +0000 UTCHistorically, capital tends to shy away from projects that do not immediately offer profit. Will the techbro's soon lose interest or do they have so much money that they don't care
Tom Allman
2024-12-18 14:53:36 +0000 UTCthank gods, finally someone on the left taking this seriously
SPACE DIVE will return in 2024
2024-12-18 14:39:30 +0000 UTCY’all should have doug lain on to talk sci-fi!
wonderfell
2024-12-18 14:32:55 +0000 UTCwe do get matter from space and panspermia is still viable hypothesis
E
2024-12-18 13:56:27 +0000 UTC
