Crip Mac Returns to Prison (Part 2/3)

This is eye opening to say the least.

Wes Bocian

"objective" as a term seems to be an issue for some readers. I think what is Miccalo means is that there are larger scale issues that could be pointed out which would result in a stronger message to people who aren't already on the same page. To those that think objectivity is a myth, I ask you to consider the idea of making one's own bias explicit from the outset and then reporting on more objective (points that are harder to refute and which are based in multiple sources of evidence). This is called "bracketing" and it is a way to make clear where you stand while also attempting to report the facts as they are. This is an aspect of good reporting, good science, and generally good communication.

Cole Caudle

Hey Jim Crow era still had a lot of violence, I think the through line in your videos of American poverty and the ties to racism are an excellent necessary touch. America is sitting on a powder keg with the fundamental embodiment of anti-blackness throughout its many laws and cultural practices. The Channel 5 stuff is very cool to me and I'm happy to support because I feel like the journalism is raw - showing very clearly to those who watch it who is being affected by what, and the scale of it all. The micro turns into the macro so quickly and it is so brilliantly captured through the editing and attitude of Andrew and the team. I hope we get more journalist and journalism like this in the future.

AmenRa P.

Omg. Granny Mac remembering segregation and sharing has me crying. I paused to write this. Wow. I'd love to hear more stories and memories from her and others in her generation. So important to record.

Virginia Hanna

FREE CRIP MAC TREVOR. DAMN THIS SERIIES IS OPENING MY EYES. ANDREW THIS IS IMPORTANT. WHAT YOURE SAYING Thanks

benji

Its wild that right now theres african americans picking cotton on land that was previously a plantation for essentially no pay.

Chloe McIntyre

Good to point it out. Still important not to perpetuate erasure by obscuring that violence with an incorrect generalization. Hope that Andrew sees this and dives deeper!

Graham

Thank you so much for this Claire I definitely agree. Really hopeful that Andrew sees this comment and is up to learning from this!

Graham

insane how much racism has been built into USA since the beginning.

drain.jesus

While anti-black violence may not have been at an all time peak in that time period, it certainly wasn't gone. Throughout the south there were still lynchings and other violent acts carried out. The Civil rights movement was met with very real physical opposition - just because granny bear didn't experience that doesn't mean it didn't exist. It's admittedly a minor point in context.

tony ravioli

what makes you say that?

Chris

Yet another troll..

Miccalo

Bro is onto nothing

Aidan Ferguson

It was a quick comment but you mention a lack of violence towards blacks in the mid-late 50s (what granny bear talks about) and I think you should consider removing that statement

tony ravioli

so glad youre back <3 def one of the most important journalists of our generation. keep your nose clean bro, the world needs you haha

Reese

Shit man them inmates living lavish in California compared to here in Alabama. Ain’t trying to cause no uproar but California atleast makes an attempt to pull the wool over peoples eyes in regards to statutes and laws passed to help with the prisoners well being and are steadily “making attempts” to do so. I’m not saying they work great or make doing time somewhere other than some low grade basically work release program like San Quentin. I know it’s still time for sure. But these mother fuckers here in Alabama haven’t made a step towards change since Reagan first set wheels in motion for the prison industrial complex to REALLLY roll with the drug war. Then Clinton passed mandatory minimums and the 3 strike law with ole Biden right behind him. Which was the icing on the cake that these low brow elitist swine are still eating to this day.

Al

https://www.injusticewatch.org/news/2020/secret-report-alabama-prison-inmate-allegedly-beaten-died/amp/

Al

I gotta say as a young historian working in the Deep South, I profoundly disagree with the characterization of Jim Crow as moving from the era of outright Klan violence to indifference… the third wave of Klan activity really took off post WW2 and there were hundreds of bombings and murders. Klan violence was persistent, widespread, and ongoing from the end of the civil war AT LEAST up until the 1970s in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and the Carolinas (and in rural areas, up until today). Lynch mobs were still out of control in the post-reconstruction pre-civil rights era, hence the mass migration of black folks from the south moving to places like california and Minnesota. Emmett Till was beaten and murdered in 1955 (peak Jim Crow era), and he was one of the thousands of people who were lynched between 1900-1964. I know it was just a moment and I don’t mean to nitpick but I don’t think it’s fair at all to characterize the Jim Crow South as “indifferent” and I think there’s broader cultural forces which have been actively trying to erase the history of violence and racial terrorism. It was openly violent and an incredibly dangerous place. Great work on the redlining analysis though and glad you’re exploring the historical continuum of race and mass incarceration.

Claire Stephens

The irony.

Miccalo

Objectivity has one definition, and it is not what you have interpreted it as. You wanted to believe I disagreed despite me explicitly saying I agreed. Wishful thinking is dangerous and affects every human. I hope you can turn what you saw in me inward while enjoying the rest of your life. ✌

Miccalo

see below replies to explain my sense of futility for the future

Miccalo

Dude - I love almost everything you put out, but THIS really struck a cord. Extremely well done, educational, and frankly eye opening. Keep fighting for your friend, I look forward to more of this brand of raw exposure of flawed systems by Channel 5. Thank you for continuing to follow your dream.

Myers Hurt

Fantastic journalism of redlining and segregation in a free crip Mac video is impressive and shows how deep these seeds of racism go and how these things are still sadly alive and well in the US.

Julian R.

Crip Mac is lucky to have such a great support system, between the Channel 5 universe and his amazing family. Free the goat man

Josh Greer

The 13 amendment is crazy ..

Jose Hernandez

LOVE history and old footage. keep it up andreww

Sweaty Palms

this one! Really documentation is a form of ethnographic film which is also and allways a reflection about the interest of the documentarian. That is why we like Andrews Docs, because we like him. Objectivity is often an narrative trown arround to judge material based on common reproduced socialtial norms. That you do not agree and see thisngs different and want them differently explored is actally interesting and you should analyze it further(@ Miccalo).

Ifé De Oli

They usually make under a dollar per hour. Realistically, it would make sense if inmates could make more so they actually have savings when they get out. Then they might not resort back to a life of crime as soon as they get released.

M J

Amazing work guys!!!!

Castelan

Good work!

Magic Plants

This would be great if it could be followed up with an interview with Gypsy Rose.....

DM

Free crip mac

Beet

Profoundly inspirational and informative as always.

Grant Golden

Nipsey is more famous

Cesar Gomez

The video talks about COINTELPRO are you deaf or dumb?

Cvpher.com

I got released from federal prison four years ago after serving 5 years for marijuana. I’ve met several guys who got offered 3-5 years and went to trial. As a result they received 20+ years. Unfortunately Crip Mac has extensive arrest record which puts him at a category 6 and career criminal. Thanks for shining light on these important issues.

Carey Stynes

Drop the protest Addy and I'm there, on hood.

Barry Montoya II

always the same lol everything is hitler. facts=hitler! massive amounts of COPE

trythinking

Thanks for your opinion, Mr Hitler.

JoePerkins

There is no objectif journalism. If you think there is such things as unbiased media, you are media-illiterate.

Hugo Requer

Thank you for what you do. Please stay safe

Nick Rogers

Re: role of state/counties - who gets to decide who/how/what they rule on? Private interests through the legalised corruption of lobbies

Nas

What he said. He said what i was gonna say but better.

jo al

It's very close to being gold, I'd say it's silver. A) It's speculation that MLK/Malcom was killed because of the FBI, there's no hard evidence of that. Although that first gentlemen mentioned absolutely was assassinated by law enforcement. B) The prison system is being exploited by malicious corporate prison contractors. It's not like states/counties are deliberately bloating their legal structure with junk cases so they can make license plates. If they wanted cheap license plates they can order them from Vietnam. It's not "new slavery", that's an insult to slaves. It's a corrupt prison system hijacked by special interests.

Lame Lade

Agreed, i even started thinking that before they said it, "I hope they got him out of LA before locking him down."

Lame Lade

This is part of why I don't like people pretending the prison system is a slavery system. Slavery absolutely went away. Saying it did not is an insult to both the people who fought and died in the deadliest American war to end slavery, and more importantly to the slaves themselves. Frederick Douglas never threw a ghost gun into a parking garage where kids were playing while he ran from the cops. Harriet Tubman didn't violate her parole carrying a loaded firearm as a convicted felon because she was in a drug gang that fills her community with tranq and fent and crack. This is part of why I don't like people pretending the prison system is slavery, because it's an insult to slaves.

Lame Lade

This is a pretty biased series, maybe you should categorize it as an opinion piece. I only bring it up because, despite agreeing overall, a few of your arguments aren't completely objective. I know you want to help your friend and that creates a desire to have evidence that helps them, a bias every human is subject to. IMO them getting tossed into the horribly-functioning justice system has brought its myriad issues directly into your focus, and you may not have much hope in navigating them. By contrast, many folk get to ignore systemic flaws, or are placated by pretending their complaints online make an impact. I empathize for your struggle, hope the best for him, and will be happy to contribute to the fund you create.

Miccalo

I think the number one thing the black community doesn't address enough, and the primary reason they struggle more than other minorities, is the destruction of the black family. And that IS a result of slavery. It's not BLACK culture to not know your dad. That's SLAVE culture. And it absolutely demolishes communities. Descending from slaves it turns out is a fundamentally more socially damaging experience than descending from immigrants, even if they were discriminated against.

Lame Lade

I think you can argue the prison contractors DO want people to be arrested, and lobby the government for that happen. But I think the suggestion that the ENTIRE SYSTEM is RIGGED to produce slaves? Like... you don't need the extra steps. There's WAY cheaper ways to make license plates without needing enormously expensive legal bureaucracies, judges, lawyers, court houses, all of this stuff COSTS billions and billions in state money. This is a case of leeches being leeches and exploiting a system through corruption, not a State system built specifically to oppress people.

Lame Lade

Real question: Is it normal for prisoners to make a wage? I thought work done by prisoners was supposed to only profit the prison. Why would the inmates be paid for being in jail?

Rebecca White

ah nah slavery definitely went away after it came to the USA and white people abolished it.

trythinking

the *facts* oozing out of this post - fixed it for you

trythinking

definitely everyone else's fault. Probably just a victim of being born in the best country in the world. My bad

trythinking

The racism oozing out of this post is repugnant.

Jason Sellers

God our system is so fucked. The worst part is that a lot of these prison systems claim to be rehabilitating people when really they’re just setting them up to fail.

Amanda Anderson

I think if you paid attention to the Crip Mac story its obvious the gang tattoos were a result of the dangerous inner-city environment perpetuated by the US government.I don't think its fair to put blame on that choice as there were obviously external pressures leading to that decision.

trycaring

Ryan

How come every other ethic group like Chinese who are basically segregated (by choice) with places like Chinatown, even the Irish back in New York, etc...they all have been able to succeed and thrive as a community without the help of other races of people? It seems like the only group who has a hard time helping themselves succeed is the black community. Black people themselves will tell you this. Also, I think the cotton picking must be specifically for prison punishment because basically no one in the US pick cotton by hand and haven't for a long time. It is much more cost effective and efficient to use machinery to do all of the harvesting now. One idea is to maybe dont get gang tattoos all over your face and then carry around illegal firearms.

trythinking

it is messed up he had to stay in LA, but at the same time we can't have people with diagnosed mental health problems carrying guns, much less illegal guns.

Kyle Iufer

imma keep in nifty, i love C5 and crip mac five-everrrr

Jason Enrico

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0455913/?ref_=ttpl_ov Excellent documentary about the history of LA gangs. Can’t recommend enough

Jack Day

Hoping part 3 has a happy ending. Free Crib Mac!

Martin Kiewiet

amazing video series!

Alexander

Just got the zine thank you Andrew <3

Nazeem's bald head

Just as a friendly fyi: COINTELPRO is pronounced CO INTEL PRO as it's an abbreviation for counter intelligence program. Federal agents involved in COINTELPRO participated in condoned clandestine extrajudicial punishment that would be considered state sponsored terrorism nowadays. I swear I'm not a conspiracy theorist, even the FBI admits to the superficial fucked up shit they did: https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro and also the DoJ: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/spying-america-fbis-domestic-counter-intelligence-program

Alk3Catch22

Zooming out for historical context for this and the Philly streets series has been such a breath of fresh air when it comes to trying to understand the root causes of an issue. Thanks Andrew

Thom

FREE CRIP MAC, excellent job on this

Banertrax

Civic education gold right here. Thanks a lot C5 gang

Nas

This sucks, praying for the best outcome.

dashmaster

Got my zine today, should be there soon.

Paul

Amazing journalism as always.

Joshua Cortes

Ben LeMoine

being forced into La county is actually retarded

vapelordthenord

Free crip mac 55 / find wintertime 🙏🏾

Anthony Johnson

Ngl, touched and surprised you listened to me, I'm just a brit. But can't wait to donate ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Andy Harako

Free the real

Prince Diop

Keep doing what u guys do !!!

Ashleytundra

I guess we’ll see if this hold weight. I think he always wanted to be something he wasn’t. Looks like a 69 type of thing. He went and out himself out there and the homies let him take the fall? Let’s see if he stays true?

Casper