Episode Discussion: Jojo Siwa and ranking different bad girl eras
Added 2024-07-08 18:13:11 +0000 UTCFeel free to chat about this weeks episode! And let me know…which bad girl era, to you, was the best and the worst?
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Late to the chat but I love Reputation so much. It's one of her best albums, the tour was amazing, the outfits during that time were peak. I had a different understanding of the album. It wasn't about her not caring about her reputation. It's very obvious that she does. It's about what happens to someone who is a people pleaser and their reputation is actually everything to them when the public turns on them. The whole point of it is that she cares more than anyone else.
Kris Lynn
2024-07-18 12:35:25 +0000 UTCI am a swiftie so I am not going to be unbiased but I have always found that part of her charm. It's endearing, like very obviously a good girl trying to be wild and I love it. Her vigilante shit chair dance during the eras tour is the peak of this. It's cheeky and fun, kind of like a rocky horror show dance number.
Kris Lynn
2024-07-18 12:33:10 +0000 UTCThat is definitely an unpopular opinion!! lol
Kris Lynn
2024-07-18 12:30:42 +0000 UTCPitbull our feminist king 💜💜
Bridget Bauer
2024-07-12 20:44:10 +0000 UTCIn my head I pictured Wiz Kahlifa so I’m glad I came across this comment 😂
Ciara
2024-07-12 12:38:12 +0000 UTCOkay I feel like to me Miley’s bad girl era was can’t be tamed and bangers was like her Joanne! It was way more scandalous while bangerz was just cringe and weird!
RJ
2024-07-11 10:57:30 +0000 UTCUnpopular opinion: Jojo’s “Karma” is 10x better and more fun than Taylor Swift’s “Karma.” I was glad to see that Jojo broke the audience turnout record for pride fests in Chicago and Miami.
Kate
2024-07-10 06:56:21 +0000 UTCThese are great points. I agree with everything you’re saying. Jojo has been so exploited and manipulated yet the public doesn’t seem to empathize. Her parents seem awful.
Kate
2024-07-10 06:48:58 +0000 UTCunrelated to having a bad girl era but I think Jojo Siwa and Meghan Trainor are similar-they both don’t seem to have stans in the same capacity that they have haters and it seems their biggest crimes have been being annoying and not aspirationally hot
Katie Gyorffy
2024-07-10 03:34:01 +0000 UTCMy hot take is that people are going to deeply regret bullying Jojo Siwa in the next 5-10 years. After watching her CHD interview I really believe there is going to be a tell all in the next couple years once her frontal lobe finishes developing and she finally pieces some things together. She is soooo close to understanding that she was exploited and taken advantage of by every adult around her but just isn’t quite there yet. I really feel bad for her. I think what sets her apart from other child stars like Miley, Ariana, etc, is that she didn’t get to grow up with her audience and her audience eventually grew up without her. She’s always exclusively been a YOUNG children’s entertainer, like 2-10 years old, which didn’t allow her the space to explore her sexuality at a typical age or reach those developmental milestones at the same speed as other teenage entertainers. Imagine being 14, 15, 16 and having to dress up as and act like a toddler all the time as well as having a career where you perform for them. And being queer on top of that? That’s gotta do some damage to your psyche. I find it ironic that even though she is in the same industry as the quiet on set kids, the empathy isn’t extended to her. Probably because she doesn’t fit the “perfect victim” narrative…..yet.
holly
2024-07-10 00:05:53 +0000 UTCAnother amazing episode (as always)! Totally agree about reputation & tour but did you know the recording was removed from Netflix? I was so disappointed when I found out- rep tour was bombastic and amazing. Ugh, I’ll report back here to update if it ever returns to Netflix ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And again, amazing episode 🙏👏
Hannah
2024-07-09 21:51:15 +0000 UTCRachel Ballinger is Colleen’s younger sister and was in the closet during her (inappropriate) friendship with Jojo. I totally get the grooming allegations.
Juan Rivera
2024-07-09 21:27:54 +0000 UTCI think a dance mom’s episode would be a hit!! Kelly and her daughter Paige sued Abby Lee Miller, there was a lost episode where they had the young girls dance almost topless, Abby was arrested for fraud and it’s rumored that Melissa got a sweetheart deal and confessed to everything that locked Abby up so she (Melissa) wouldn’t also need to go to jail. lol if you can’t tell, just like many other Gen Z girls I grew up on dance moms and had a fan page.
Savannah Bertram
2024-07-09 20:42:52 +0000 UTCLOL I can’t believe I said will I am 💀 omg. Ty 🙏🏼
Shannon McNamara
2024-07-09 14:04:48 +0000 UTCMiley was sucking Mike Will Made It’s dick, not Will.i.ams lmao
Silas Pulliam
2024-07-09 01:42:21 +0000 UTCi watched a youtube video the other day on this topic, and the creator said "ariana grande & beyonce aren't bad girls. they're good girls doing bad things" and i feel like that's why ariana's switch up doesn't hit like a rihanna. she never fully became a bad girl. she's just a good girl who likes wild sex
sg
2024-07-09 01:40:23 +0000 UTCI really appreciate how you talked about JoJo in a sympathetic way considering how she's become the internet's punching bag. I'm pretty neutral towards her as a celebrity, but I feel bad for her. I remember one of the first things I heard in regards to her was her talking about dealing with trichotillomania. That's a compulsive disorder thats related to OCD and anxiety and can absolutely be a trauma response. The internet has the capability to acknowledge mental health issues and the negative impact of Dance Moms, pageant shows, and what happens to young children when you put them through the entertainment industry. But because JoJo is I guess cringey? and not a perfect person, all that is forgotten for the sake of having an easy target to bully. I can definitely see her being the type of celebrity, where if down the road something awful happens to her, the internet narrative will turn around and be like "Oh she actually had such a hard life!! She experienced so much trauma! We actually really loved JoJo!" But who knows! I just hate watching a young girl get bullied.
Kade Q
2024-07-08 23:46:34 +0000 UTCBack then, her dad, Billy ray...always seemed like a clean cut kind of guy, and you would not have expected that from Miley. But then again, maybe you should have. either way, I think she's come a long way.
Insomniac
2024-07-08 21:55:56 +0000 UTCI loved XTina and Stripped. It was A LOT, but it felt natural to me. She’s know she’s good, not shy about her sexuality and went with it. I loved her Back to Basics too. She that unicorn that can do many genres well.
SOL88
2024-07-08 21:25:54 +0000 UTCYeah, fetch is never going to happen for her 😏
SOL88
2024-07-08 21:23:49 +0000 UTCSomething about Taylor swift just makes her unable to be cool in a bad girl way - there’s just something about her that’s so the opposite. It’s always going to be somewhat cringe when she tries to be perceived in that way
Sophie Bartlett
2024-07-08 21:14:25 +0000 UTCGood timing with the rolling stone article on the Hannah Montana Pop era
Zoe Reinus
2024-07-08 21:11:39 +0000 UTCSo true! Id love it if we got an episode on SNL too…sure there are a lot of blinds on rhat
Peyton Freeman
2024-07-08 20:39:19 +0000 UTCI liked Miley’s bad girl era. I know it was runchy and messy but it was iconic and memorable. Does anyone remember way before her bad girl era when news outlets started sharing pics of her taking bong rips and everyone was freaking out? 😂
Peyton Freeman
2024-07-08 20:38:02 +0000 UTCI think Britney had the most natural good girl gone bad era. Inevitable and made sense!!
Irene Infante
2024-07-08 19:36:16 +0000 UTCThis one was made me sadder than I expected! Did anyone else see that interview where she talks about how she refuses to see a therapist?
Rachel Gentile
2024-07-08 18:33:00 +0000 UTCAgree with the SNL take. Complete missed opportunity for a viral week for them. Those sketches ( good or bad) would’ve been all over the internet and news for the week
Caitlyn
2024-07-08 18:19:36 +0000 UTCGreat ep. I'm not done. I thought it was funny though I'm at the nail salon listening and Conan Obrien came on!!
Erin
2024-07-08 18:17:13 +0000 UTCThe ultimate good girl gone bad is bettie page!
Erin
2024-07-08 18:16:42 +0000 UTC
