TTPD first thoughts (repost)

Ok hot take BUT Ant’s recent video confirmed my suspicions that Taylor is kinda going after Lana’s themes and ideas in this album. A lot of these songs suspiciously reminded me of Lana in terms of themes, word usage, speaking about s**cide, w33d? Mentioning god??? Speaking highly of poetry and poets? Even arranging the music like Lana (ik they both work w Jack) with some background audio of ppl speaking in the studio into the song which Lana has just done in her recent album. So odd.

Lucyyy

In the song But Daddy I Love Him she said “I’m having his baby- no I’m not”. Could this be Bigger Than The Whole Sky related?!?!?!?!

Ciara

“Somebody in this song is bissexual and we’re gonna have to talk about it!” Shannon I love you 😂

Vitor Dutra

I think that was the point of the album! Taking you through her emotional journey the past two years. She felt drained by the end too I would imagine

Kris Lynn

I tried. I don’t think I will ever understand this perplexing obsession.

Jacqueline

Travis probably doesn’t understand any lyrics tbh

taylorslikeumwife

Here's a hot take - I was listening Bryan's comment about being in the closet and that it must be so boring. I personally don't think people should be coming out as if being straight is the rule as I'm not straight myself. Maybe she's been expressing her own sexuality the whole time but she just doesn't want to share it with her fans or doesn't think she ought to, Taylor is such a public person that MAYBE she just wants to keep certain things to herself. I don't even listen to Taylor but honestly, if I had a horde of fans believing I'm the straightest whitest pop star ever, I'd monetize it and keep my girlfriends in the low which I think she does really good, making people talk about her. That's basically free publicity right there!

Alexandra A. B.

Also this redditer said it all 👇🏼

Thai

This album is very confusing to me. I really don't understand what Taylor had in mind with the whole concept or if she had a concept at all. Feels like a bunch of different styles and generic lyrics put together in a hurry to fit the aesthetic she wanted it. Actually, this is it. I think she caged herself with the "eras concept" and it's struggle to come up with new themes. So she thought of an aesthetic but the music don't match. There's not to say that I didn't like any of the music. I like a lot at least 6 (Fortnight, song lond London, so high school, the prophecy, Cassandra and Florida), however, feels like a ripped off from some very strong, very good with the identity artists like Lana, Olivia, Phoebe bridges... It's time to let Jack Antonoff go as a producer. Her songs all sound the same, she doesnt have a very clear voice anymore. The best part of the album it's the part produced but Aaron desner but still, very repetitive. When I first listen to the very first song, my first thought was "Is this a Lana del rey album?"

Thai

I need to do more research on this… but Mat and Taylor 20 stitches in the hospital room? Wanting to be out of the woods and hard launch the relationship?

TMay

I skimmed through the albums and my main take away was I liked the bolter

Erin

Would love if Shannon (not me lol) could do a blind item / gossip episode for every TS era !

Shannon Western

I love the album. So glad it’s not a Joe Alwyn centric one - that whole relationship makes me yawn and sceptical lol

Shannon Western

also i didn’t pick up on gay things immediately (except for MY TWIN. HELLO??????) but after trolling through gaylor spaces i’m like yup there are a lot of gay songs on this album

Savannah Martin

i was ALSO having such big emotions listening to the album, like i keep crying. it doesn’t help that i’m on my period and i just travelled with my cat which always sends me into a spiral lol 🤩

Savannah Martin

After reading through some comments it's probably just about Matty tho lol.

Emily Holden

Conspiracy hat - Florida tourism numbers are way down so DeSantis payed Taylor & Florence a lot of money to write a song about Florida to augment the industry

Emily Holden

Look I'ma say it right now, this whole album is an Ode to Matty Healy. This is literally her reflecting on her TEN YEAR relationship with Matty. The second part was written first (confirmed by the producers) which literally is about the first time they were together which Matty Healy literally said during like 2015 that he had a girlfriend but then some drug stuff/financial stuff/family stuff got in the way. So all the references to him buying drugs makes me sad. I can't remember if she mentioned drugs in the first part of the album but like that to me is their most recent relationship. I honestly believe Matty and Taylor would've been like together if a) he was stable and b) she wasn't as famous. I lowkey think Taylor's fans and his actions split them apart a bit tbh. Idk. They're also a little bit of like parallels (sonically) for me that are like close to ILIWYS. Like this sounds like an earlier The 1975 light album. I truly think they understood each other because they're both "hashtag deep" yaknow.

Cas Pangburn

It was shockingly incredible. I never thought she would take such risks. It's absolutely perfect in every way, Charlie Puth line and all. I am so impressed with her!!

Kris Lynn

also as a massive 1975 fan i am hiding my head in the sand lol

Alex

the paste article said she clearly “no longer feels challenged to be good” and honestly? i agree!

Alex

I do think the track is cringy and became embarrassing when she referenced her daughter. If Olivia did that to Taylor 5 years from now they’d rip her to shreads (also Penelope went to eras)

Noratia

and FKA Twigs was engaged to Matty Healy and had nothing to say about him 💀

Noratia

Literally be making the word count in college

Noratia

Also nod to the Halsey long tumblr post about Matty… he is the guy you meet ar 17 and never get over

Paulina Altofová

If you are not a fan of 1975 /know Matty lore/ you are missing out on like 80% of the references. The 1975 parallers are insane and all thru out the album

Paulina Altofová

Lastly tho, I do think she needs to learn that it’s not so much about the words as it is about how you use them. Sometimes Taylor’s use of a big word just sounds out of place and messes with the flow of the song. If you can’t tell your story without the needing “I have to tell them I’m a wordsmith” then are you? Some of it just feels so clunky to me

RJ

Overall I do think it’s funny to see the swifties fighting each other over who the songs are about. I’ve seen some people arguing about “she didn’t even date matty!” And then people going “omg are you stupid this is about Joe!” And some “no the matty thing has been 10 years ongoing” etc etc. I’m just here mentally imaging what music videos could look like.

RJ

So the best way I could put it is this album is emotionally draining to listen to. Once I finished the second half last night I felt like a boxer having finished one round, being ready to tap out and go do something fun when the second half dropped and just ko’d me emotionally! Also I will say nothing is boppy which is what I wanted but this album sounds so passive agressive at times. Like it reminds me of teens who find sarcasm because they don’t know how to emote yet. I could’ve sworn the albatross was on 1989… idk why but I felt like I had heard it already (maybe I’m on a different timeline) The manuscript tore me up so badly. Peter did too.

RJ

Omg is that why Taylor is “friends” with ice spice cuz didn’t north make a bunch of TikTok’s with ice spice

taylorslikeumwife

I’m the same way! 😂 When I saw the title I giggled, because my sis always makes fun of me for creeping in windows on walks. 😅

Mary C.

My husband always says I’m creepy for looking in people’s windows at night - but there are blinds and curtains people. I can’t help it I’ve named people near us based on what is always on their TVs. 😆

Jess Thomas

I feel like it was a little underwhelming, even if there are songs I absolutely love, but I also feel like it's an album that is going to grow on me, like evermore also was for me. I also think I would have liked it if the album was split into a part 1 and 2 maybe, as having 31 songs on one album feels a little overwhelming. But I'm super excited to hear what people think the songs are about, cause I'm Def not a lyrics person on my own

Emilie s

My personal opinion: most of her music is a whitewashed version of what some other female artist is doing.

Jacqueline

So long London was so beautiful! Especially that sound with her voice.

aaa3tiya

Zena Yen Wozniak

I listened to the first 20 seconds of each song if it sounded the same as all the rest i skipped

taylorslikeumwife

I agree about the cringey realness 😂 I told my cousin some parts sound like the poems we wrote in middle school. But it makes me love it

Nyxl Scorpion

And I agree!!! She needs to give Olivia writing credits.

Problematic Bestie

It's a good album. I'm just ready for something with a different sound.

Problematic Bestie

I loooove the first half, still working through the second half. I actually do find a lot of the lyrics pretty poetic and dramatic. And others are just fun and funny. I’m loving it so much and can’t wait to hear all the smart swifties connect the dots for me 🙏

Nyxl Scorpion

What are some of these lyrics?! She needs to stop with the “I’m a poet mastermind” cause saying I wanna be in 1883 without the racism when you’ve dated a racist is so cringe I just can’t.

Shannon Walker

Wow, I actually am obsessed with it!! I understand how some lyrics can be cringy, but that makes it all the more real to me. I absolutely think and write cringy stuff sometimes but that’s me and it’s real. I do like that she seemed to put this out for herself and it shows (to me at least), regardless of the opinions

Annie

HAHAHA “I’m watching porn on my laptop and it feels all right! Cause she’ll neverrrrr get her freak on like iiiii dooooo”

Shannon McNamara

I was actually shocked that most of the songs are about Matty Healy! Will definitely need more time with this album since there are so many songs. So far my favorite is guilty as sin

Mary

It’s true . it’s because her fans have put her on a pedestal however, she is not on that level . The bar is in hell for them so they regard as one of the greatest. PJ Harvey, Fiona Apple, Bjork, Jeff Buckley, Bob Dylan, Joni mitchell, etc…… her fans simply just dont listen to enough music *Correction*: her superfans

Tochi 👼 💌

she is not over Matty lol

Olivia Colone

Shannon we have such similar takes!

Mackenzie Trush

Plz no death threats but I genuinely don’t understand how she can be know as THE singer song writer and then produce something like that. Idk I’m not a fan of her music in general but seeing the lyrics from this drop really makes me question everything

Olivia Murray

I love the Anthology songs but don’t like any songs in the first half other than “So Long London.” Folklore and Evermore are my favorites, and the Anthology songs continue that vibe.

Lily

This was my least favorite album of hers. There was no poetry? This album has such a lack of identity. I was imaging evermore and folklore writing with a more indie-pop sound. Instead we got midnights 2.0 (and the bonus tracks felt repetitive- I can’t tell majority of them apart.) Though I appreciated the truth, and it feels like we’re going back to messy album releases, which is enjoyable. But I imagined the album to have a more mature sound, like So Long London, The Black Dog, and even How Did It End. I don’t know, maybe it will grow but as of right now I just really think she needs some editors and new producers. Jack Antonoff has aged so many songs and just needs the boot! Also, I’m sad we didn’t get a Joe breakup album. But I guess So Long London will speak for itself.

aaa3tiya

Shannon can I just say I can only hear/sing ‘im in my room its a sexual tuesday night’ thank you :)

Louiseypie