Operation Paperclip - the Nazi conspiracy theory that was true
Added 2023-06-30 06:01:00 +0000 UTCHello *Forward Thinkers*! Today we are doing a conspiracy/history episode all about Operation Paperclip - how after WW2, countries took Nazi scientists back to their country and employed them (and sometimes gave them the red carpet treatment) and more. In this episode I also reference the upcoming Monday episode, FYI we are taking Monday off for the holiday weekend, so that episode will be out next Monday! Timestamps are below:
4:08 We begin!
12:09 How we treated the Nazis like First Class
17:11 Who did we get? What inventions came from Operation Paperclip
22:15 The propaganda the government put out to get people to accept these Nazis
25:15 Wernher von Braun - the biggest guy we got
32:40 Theories around Operation Paperclip
36:22 Discussion - was it worth it?
40:37 The Nazi experiments
48:42 Celebrities making Nazi jokes
Comments
Watch the show Hunters on Amazon! It’s basically all about this, but they hunt down these nazis
Gaby
2023-07-08 05:02:06 +0000 UTCI went a couple years ago & I never forgot about the prison rooms, although I cannot lie until now I think I intentionally tried to forget about the vertical holes. But the suffocation rooms, I mean the piles of hair, the barracks, & I will never ever forget how cold it was. Those are some things I can never forget. I dressed somewhat warm but I remember my ankles were slightly exposed & my coat wasn't quite thick enough. It was the middle of October & I just remember thinking, if I am this cold right now, nearly in pain, I cannot imagine how the prisoners must have felt. I think this episode was even more nauseating for me because I saw these places with my own eyes. Shannon amazing episode as usual!!
grace
2023-07-06 15:48:24 +0000 UTCWatch 3 perfect strangers on Netflix!! A doc about triplets being separated at birth to determine nature vs nurture (think the doctor was German too)
Grace Maynard
2023-07-04 20:36:17 +0000 UTCSeveral years ago, I visited auschwitz. It’s preserved pretty well (saw a gas chamber, the train, barracks, etc). it was an incredibly moving experience. One of things they show you is the prison block - yes, there is a PRISON in the prison camp. This was especially heinous. The prisoners wound be sentenced to “darkness” where they would be trapped in a room alone that was completely pitch black without food or water for days. They could also be sentenced to suffocation; they’d be put in a room that had an incredibly small hole in it to the outside and they would be trapped there until they suffocated to death. Another really horrific thing nazi’s did was sentence people to sleep in these small vertical holes. These room were the size of small closets, with a hole in the bottom that the prisoners had to climb through. They’d have four people in there at a time and they also had an overhead light, and that’s how they’d have to sleep for however long the sentence was. Hearing this episode and much these people were celebrated is obviously extremely disgusting to me, especially after knowing the kind of suffering these men were complicit in. I’m glad you’re talking about this because it’s important these stories and what the nazi’s did are never, ever forgotten.
Sharon Steed
2023-07-02 21:18:50 +0000 UTCAmazing episode... 🧡 Cant wait for the lyme disease🎉🙏
Donchinka
2023-07-02 12:24:55 +0000 UTCMore episodes like this!
Bella Leite
2023-07-02 05:43:38 +0000 UTCArgentina had a history of German and Italian immigration there even prior to ww2 so that made it easier for nazis to blend in there post war. That is a weird thing for Lars von Trier to say. He is a great film maker though. All of his movies are deeply unsettling and make you think for days afterward. Melancholia is probably the most famous film but he has several others like Dogville with Nicole Kidman. Be careful before watching Antichrist - it’s often regarded as one of the most obscene movies of all time. It took me a week to recover and I regret seeing it. That being said, his other films are more tame and I think people should check out at least a couple of them.
Davis
2023-07-01 16:15:41 +0000 UTCI definitely feel like a lot of people (mainly politicians) just turn a blind eye to immoral and awful things as long as it benefits them, and that’s what happened with paper clip
Stevie Naumcheff
2023-07-01 13:24:52 +0000 UTCBeing from Huntsville, I don’t feel like it’s very German here or Nazi influenced, but the Oktoberfest thing is very popular and held on the arsenal base and so much stuff is named after Von Braun or other German names, my grandfather even worked for NASA under Von Braun
Stevie Naumcheff
2023-07-01 13:20:35 +0000 UTCAlso, preach about performative activism
Dylan Tobek
2023-06-30 21:55:01 +0000 UTCHoly shit. Sometimes the hardest stuff to listen to is the most important to talk about. It’s disgusting how many Holocaust deniers are in the conspiracy theory space(no floozies I’ve seen, ofc). Thanks for talking about this, and NEVER AGAIN.
Dylan Tobek
2023-06-30 21:50:01 +0000 UTCSo insane!! I love episodes like this!
Tana
2023-06-30 19:51:49 +0000 UTCOMg! I live in lyme, CT where lymes disease was apparently discovered.
Hannah
2023-06-30 19:29:12 +0000 UTCPlum. Fucking. Island. Can’t wait!
Allyson
2023-06-30 18:15:11 +0000 UTCMy partners dad worked for NASA in the 70s and a lot of his bosses / the heads at nasa at the time we're all nazis 😭
Courtney Johnson
2023-06-30 17:45:05 +0000 UTCI love that you are doing these kind of topics!!!!!!
carole sconfitto
2023-06-30 17:28:07 +0000 UTCOHIO PRIDE!!!!!! FUCK OUTTA HERE NAZIS
Dylan Tobek
2023-06-30 16:14:37 +0000 UTCWhen you said “the greater good” I thought about the dumbledore grindelwald story in Harry Potter and the deathly hollows
CalmDownDanielle
2023-06-30 15:35:07 +0000 UTCNo stomach for even ethical medical stuff, and was retching at my desk, but felt the experiment details were important to listen to as I never truly delved into the atrocities, and specific information like this is crucial amidst neo-nazism and people even thinking nazi/holocaust jokes are funny. Thank you for taking the time and energy to cover both light stuff that will take your mind away from the Horrors™️ but also important shit to keep in memory like this. Your work is much appreciated 🙏
Annie
2023-06-30 14:24:23 +0000 UTCI'm from Birmingham!
schulmanatrix
2023-06-30 14:10:37 +0000 UTCTo answer your question "how did the nazis make all these tech advancements": in short, Germany did have a LOT of amazing scientists in the interwar period, but what really pushed them as far as they were was that there were zero rules that said that scientists had to be ethical and do no harm to their human subjects. Unfortunately it turns out you can make a lot of scientific discoveries and advancements when you treat the humans involved in your studies as if they were the nails and the scientists the hammers. Japan made a lot of scientific advancements in this period for the same reason the nazis did, I forget which military unit it was, but if you want an absolutely horrifying read, search it up.
Cassea Ward
2023-06-30 13:28:24 +0000 UTCLoved this episode! I’m from Huntsville, AL, and my prom was at the Werner Von Braun center. I had no idea he was a nazi until I dated a German guy in college. He told me all about how he was a Nazi. I had no idea about any of that until he told me, and I looked it up myself.
pugluver23
2023-06-30 13:18:15 +0000 UTCI love this already! My morning drives to work are always with you 🫶🫡
Yana Tretyakova
2023-06-30 06:10:33 +0000 UTCYaaaaaaassszzzz.. perfect timing as I was mindlessly surfing Hulu. Brb, grabbing my airpods.. also cannot wait for your pod w/ Christy! Please touch on the Astroworld news.
Diana Her
2023-06-30 06:02:39 +0000 UTC
