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Scooter, Lizzo, Bella Hadid, Karlie, Doja Cat and more! with Cam from What I Will Say

This week Cam (her patreon is ALWAYS ROCKING - https://patreon.com/whatiwillsay) joins me for our takes on the latest in pop culture since I've been gone and this week! We talk about...

1:33 Karlie showed up at her party

15:08 Scooter Braun

20:30 Bella Hadid and chronic Lyme

33:00 Doja Cat and her fans

49:30 Lizzo lawsuit

Comments

Not sure if someone has already said this, but maybe Karlie and her team bought out the surrounding like hundred seats at the concert and then hired extras to sit in them and not film. If there were millionaires/billionaires there, I think it makes sense.

Emilyyyyyyy

Lol I live in Nashville, but people have connections in Nashville. I learned from a girl who’s professor apparently knows him and said that apparently Scooter is trying to run for office as a governor. That’s just alleged though 🤣🤣

Danica Sauter

We must talk about this 😂

Emily Watts

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12454493/amp/Kanye-West-NAKED-buttocks-Bianca-Censori-boat-Venice-tourists.html

Emily Watts

I was just gonna talk about her involvement with Incels and white supremacists on 4chan.

Crystal R-O

OH and on the Lizzo thing, my sister works at a roller rink where Lizzo filmed a music video and from what I was told, she was incredibly rude and made a huge mess and treated a lot of ppl like shit haha

peps 🦷

On the Doja Cat thing fans of hers who were sa’d/abused by her boyfriend were trying to tell her about it on twt and she would block them or tell them to stfu. there’s a thread on twt about it + Doja has a lot of involvement with incels and entertaining them

peps 🦷

Whoa that excel sheet person??👀👀psychotic !!😵‍💫

Bambi Brutus

I’m confused because she was shitting on people supporting her older “cashgrab” albums and then made the exact same type of pop music with paint the town read lmao

Deirdre Cronin

Bella was definitely cupping her breasts because some of the probes need to go under your bust

Deirdre Cronin

re Doja Cat & her fans: she posted on her IG story a few weeks ago something along the lines of like, "I'm so happy about everyone who unfollowed me recently cause now it feels like everyone who's still here actually likes me for me" and it made me realize that at her core she's just a fucking chronically online meme queen internet troll lol I think she loves music & being a creative, but got catapulted into fame really quickly & got overworked by a contract/studio/manager that boxed her into the Popstar music + image that gave her the ravenously entitled crazy fans because it made everyone a shit ton of money.

Maya

Thank you!!! That's a huge angle that I feel like no one is talking about, that many anti-trafficking groups have come out against the film.

Maya

~25mins thank you for making the observation about bella being modelesque in her sick pics! Its a hard take to give in a mindful way but that doesnt mean the point there shouldn’t be made

Annie

This was a fun episode

LadySwampWitchGivsNeauFux

My sister in law-lives in and is from Connecticut. She’s had Lymes for 10 years or more and bc it wasn’t diagnosed at the time of the bite she has been a literal invalid. I believed her. I don’t believe the Hadids all got it. My sister in law had a brain infection from it.

LadySwampWitchGivsNeauFux

I do believe doctors are referring to Long-Haul Lyme instead and that’s where the research lies. As someone with Lyme and has done a good amount of research, I have NEVER heard of people getting Lyme without a tick bite unless passed in utero. I have heard that you don’t have to have a bullseye rash for it to be a Lyme tick. There is also a lot of research showing that Lyme has reached almost every continent, not just the NE. My husband got it here in Texas last year and got rid of it with antibiotics. Celebs for sure milk Lyme for all they can and honestly cast a very bad light for people truly suffering. I think it could be a new buzzword to hide drug use. Ex. Exhaustion. It makes me sad as someone has had Lyme show up on my blood work for the last 7 years and has wrecked my life that the outliers have become the standard. Real medicine shows that long-haul lyme is real but people run with it and make it sound like crystals and blood-letting helps. Sometimes just believing you’re getting better helps and people pass it off as truth. Causation ≠ correlation.

Allyson

CMBC did a patreon episode with an infectious disease doctor going through the entire bella hadid post- it was super informative

xena farhan

I feel my brain release endorphins when I see fluently forward releases a new episode

Valia

3 Hello’s is perfect!!!

Diana Her

The greatest duo! Also, sound of freedom is definitely a right-wing US imperialism self jerk off. The org behind it was investigated for creating demand for trafficking and the fact that so many anti-trafficking groups have come out against the film says it all 🫠

R

I’ve fully adopted the “hello, hello” when I greet my coworkers in Zoom meetings 👋🏼

Averie

That Excel sheet person is the problem wtf what a weirdo

Briana

Also Paige Christie did a good video about all the doja shit that’s been happening https://youtu.be/IDf6A4nFrxY?feature=shared And i think more of the outcry was about her being weird for incels

RJ

Tbh I think Yolanda potentially having Munchhausen’s by proxy makes so much sense. I’ve been thinking about it for a couple weeks. As a chronic illness girlie I do get the if you can afford to try everything you do but there are also a lot of “doctors” celebs see that are scammers and aren’t helping at all they just want that big money

RJ

I missed you! So glad you’re back! 😄

Bails

Lena Dunham has it, don’t know if that’s who he was questioning or not tho. Lots of people don’t get diagnosed ever or until they are late adults because doctors aren’t educated

Lauren Karshner

Enty was talking about Ehlors Danlos, being a new lyme. I have the most mild version, which is joint hyper mobility syndrome. Basically all the collagen in my body is deficient, so all my ligaments are weakened. Collagen is a major protein in a body, effects lots o body processes, so even mildly, it’s chronic asf even tho you look normal from the outside.

Lauren Karshner

Your interview skills have gotten incredible! Never thought the early ones were bad, but recently I’ve been noticing these dialogues are just really next level and I love it

Lauren Karshner

The Celebrity Memoir Book Club girls had some lyme experts (actual doctors) on their Patreon and it was so informative - highly recommend!

Nicole Shannon

Did you see the tik tok of this girl talking about how her boyfriend cheated on her with Lizzo then ended up leaving her for Lizzo

Sade

How is it racist propaganda

Elizabeth

sound of freedom is absolutely racist propaganda, i feel like ive only heard poc talk abt that aspect

Traumachica

this is just one reason I love this podcast - I have several chronic illnesses that most doctors have no clue about. I have also had Lyme because I live in the northeast….(Ive accidentally become a tick/Lyme expert bc most ppl I know have had it lol) but as someone who struggles so many chronic health conditions….I really appreciated the care in which Shannon and Cam talked about this!! I usually shut things off when any health stuff comes up but I trust these two and was almost relieved to hear them talk about the topic while being thoughtful of those that do suffer from chronic conditions. I do know that once you have Lyme, you always “have it” but it goes dormant - sometimes another viral infection OR another tick bite could “revive” it - it’s a neurological disorder that we don’t know much about outside of the typical acute cases. I think Shannon’s theory is on to something 💛

paige

Great episode, love when cam is on. Little sad we didn’t get the furry convention recap.. I think that would be a good YouTube video or episode

Molly B

Thank god you’re back

Bree

That excel sheet thing is wilddddd

Bronagh

Lol I also am a chronic Lyme truther bc of Shallon even though I don’t follow her anymore and take everything she says with the largest grain of salt imaginable

Hannah

Omg!! Ty for linking I hadn’t seen that yet

Shannon McNamara

Yes good point!!

Shannon McNamara

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/months-lizzo-recent-sexual-harassment-203247526.html

Problematic Bestie

You're not ass people. We get comfortable with people we work with and act foolish sometimes. We're all guilty of that. The only thing that's come out about Lizzo that I thought was really mean was that she had her dancers do interviews and they were really personal interviews and they ended up on a show/doc without their consent. I'll look for the link and put it here because I can't quite remember the specifics.

Problematic Bestie

I can’t wait for a Lyme conspiracy episode!

Michelle Silva

I only recently heard about the Lyme conspiracy - so excited for your work on that topic!!!

MuchAbides

I’m a huge Lizzo girl. But currently I’m standing with the alleged victims (I’m an employment attorney so I may have a skewed view). I’d prefer to look like an idiot for believing the victims than an asshole who believes an alleged abuser. I’d rather have pie on my face. But I think a missing part of the conversation is that there is a different power dynamic because the dancers are plus size and less likely to get jobs in the industry so there’s a fear and indebtedness to Lizzo that might not exist with say Ariana Grande.

Corinne Huntley

Avril Lavigne manifested KarlieGate in the bridge to Sk8er Boi

Elizabeth Nunez


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